Coilovers vs Lowering Springs
#31
Re: Coilovers vs Lowering Springs
I went with H&R SS Adjustables - my suspension setup is in the link in my sig. In KW's lineup, all but their Clubsport or Competition coilovers are too soft for my liking.
Unless you were talking to an actual Engineer at Koni, I wouldn't rely on anyone's word there. Even less so if you were just talking to a sales rep at some retail company. There are very few salesman/front-line staff in this World that have real technical knowledge of the product they represent. Generally, it is detrimental to change spring rates by more than 50-100lbs on any given damper. This delta is also affected by lowering and raising the vehicle, thus changing the effective spring rate. I don't know specifically, but I doubt that the Eibach and stock springs are the same rates. Salesmen might tell you what will 'work', but they usually just sell what is good enough, not what is optimal.
Suspension tuning is sort of an art; and, most of what you get from a supplier or forum will be unsubstantiated nonsense. Stick to SAE or other technical papers, technical books, and knowledgeable individuals and/or racers. Eng-Tips is a great forum, but be prepared to have a good technical understanding of what you're asking, and physics in general, or you'll be ignored or booted - it's not a forum for laypeople.
Unless you were talking to an actual Engineer at Koni, I wouldn't rely on anyone's word there. Even less so if you were just talking to a sales rep at some retail company. There are very few salesman/front-line staff in this World that have real technical knowledge of the product they represent. Generally, it is detrimental to change spring rates by more than 50-100lbs on any given damper. This delta is also affected by lowering and raising the vehicle, thus changing the effective spring rate. I don't know specifically, but I doubt that the Eibach and stock springs are the same rates. Salesmen might tell you what will 'work', but they usually just sell what is good enough, not what is optimal.
Suspension tuning is sort of an art; and, most of what you get from a supplier or forum will be unsubstantiated nonsense. Stick to SAE or other technical papers, technical books, and knowledgeable individuals and/or racers. Eng-Tips is a great forum, but be prepared to have a good technical understanding of what you're asking, and physics in general, or you'll be ignored or booted - it's not a forum for laypeople.
I too value handling/cornering/agility far more than straight line acceleration. Any jackass can go fast in a straight line, now let's see you do a turn. Many litrebikes can slay be in the straights but I pass 'em like they're little 500cc newbies in the corners while sparks are flying off my footpegs.
#32
Re: Coilovers vs Lowering Springs
Given the great roads in Vancouver, and you saying that you like a stiffer ride, I'd say look to H&R. V1s are quite soft, and even the V3s on full firm will be soft on the track. That said, when you say you like a "slightly stiff ride", can you qualify that with a comparison of some sort? I think stock suspension in everything short of a top-tier sports car is mushy crap - my slightly-stiff ride is another man's back-ache...
Thumbs up on the handling and knowing how to ride!
Thumbs up on the handling and knowing how to ride!
#33
Re: Coilovers vs Lowering Springs
I drove a bone stock first generation C5 Z06 (385HP) and I found that just right. A lot stiffer than a regular Vette but it was a night and day difference in regards to handling.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1dirtyharry1
Audi parts for sale & wanted.
3
04-16-2009 02:03 AM
seyar
Audi parts for sale & wanted.
1
06-13-2008 10:58 PM
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)