Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
> service done.
>
> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>
> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>
> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>
> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
did not know the Audi service intervals.
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
> service done.
>
> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>
> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>
> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>
> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
did not know the Audi service intervals.
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
> service done.
>
> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>
> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>
> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>
> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
did not know the Audi service intervals.
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Ronny" <Admin@1337hosts.com> wrote in message
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> "Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131947200.322375.273590@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
>> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
>> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
>> service done.
>>
>> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
>> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
>> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>>
>> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
>> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
>> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>>
>> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
>> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
>> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
>> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
>> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>>
>> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
>> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
>> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
>> service 2 weeks prior.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>
> 120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
> Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
>
> I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
> did not know the Audi service intervals.
>
Ah sorry I did not see the bit where you said "timing belt was done" my
apologies.
All I can say is that in your quest to get it done cheaper, you have
bypassed the normal (I say normal) method of changing the Belts.
How it works is, the timing belt on an Audi A4 is a pita to do, it involves
removing the front bumper and swinging the front of the car round to reveal
the front of the engine, because it is such a shitty job to do you replace
the bits that are accessible while your are replacing the TB.
The parts that you replace when you change the belt are, the Water Pump,
Tensioners, Serpentine belt, Thermostat. The cost of these parts is around
£50.00 but the labour to fit them on their own is huge, but as you are
having the belt replaced you might as well do it as it takes approx 15 mins
to fit a new water pump, 15 mins to fit the thermostat and the same to fit
the serpentine.
You now have to go through the whole process of removing the bumper etc etc
and fit a new water pump which involves removing the timing belt etc.
You see the logic now?
With an Audi the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory does not always make
sense
hth
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Ronny" <Admin@1337hosts.com> wrote in message
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> "Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131947200.322375.273590@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
>> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
>> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
>> service done.
>>
>> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
>> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
>> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>>
>> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
>> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
>> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>>
>> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
>> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
>> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
>> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
>> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>>
>> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
>> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
>> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
>> service 2 weeks prior.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>
> 120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
> Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
>
> I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
> did not know the Audi service intervals.
>
Ah sorry I did not see the bit where you said "timing belt was done" my
apologies.
All I can say is that in your quest to get it done cheaper, you have
bypassed the normal (I say normal) method of changing the Belts.
How it works is, the timing belt on an Audi A4 is a pita to do, it involves
removing the front bumper and swinging the front of the car round to reveal
the front of the engine, because it is such a shitty job to do you replace
the bits that are accessible while your are replacing the TB.
The parts that you replace when you change the belt are, the Water Pump,
Tensioners, Serpentine belt, Thermostat. The cost of these parts is around
£50.00 but the labour to fit them on their own is huge, but as you are
having the belt replaced you might as well do it as it takes approx 15 mins
to fit a new water pump, 15 mins to fit the thermostat and the same to fit
the serpentine.
You now have to go through the whole process of removing the bumper etc etc
and fit a new water pump which involves removing the timing belt etc.
You see the logic now?
With an Audi the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory does not always make
sense
hth
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Ronny" <Admin@1337hosts.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131947200.322375.273590@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
>> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
>> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
>> service done.
>>
>> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
>> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
>> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>>
>> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
>> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
>> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>>
>> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
>> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
>> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
>> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
>> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>>
>> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
>> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
>> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
>> service 2 weeks prior.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>
> 120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
> Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
>
> I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
> did not know the Audi service intervals.
>
Ah sorry I did not see the bit where you said "timing belt was done" my
apologies.
All I can say is that in your quest to get it done cheaper, you have
bypassed the normal (I say normal) method of changing the Belts.
How it works is, the timing belt on an Audi A4 is a pita to do, it involves
removing the front bumper and swinging the front of the car round to reveal
the front of the engine, because it is such a shitty job to do you replace
the bits that are accessible while your are replacing the TB.
The parts that you replace when you change the belt are, the Water Pump,
Tensioners, Serpentine belt, Thermostat. The cost of these parts is around
£50.00 but the labour to fit them on their own is huge, but as you are
having the belt replaced you might as well do it as it takes approx 15 mins
to fit a new water pump, 15 mins to fit the thermostat and the same to fit
the serpentine.
You now have to go through the whole process of removing the bumper etc etc
and fit a new water pump which involves removing the timing belt etc.
You see the logic now?
With an Audi the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory does not always make
sense
hth
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Ronny" <Admin@1337hosts.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131947200.322375.273590@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I just pulled my car out of 9 months in storage - had it completely
>> checked out with the oil changed etc. and then drove it cross country
>> about 3000km (1,800 miles) and then had the 120,000km (75,000 mile)
>> service done.
>>
>> I then drove back across country another 2000 km (1,250 miles) and 2
>> weeks later have a grinding noise when I turn the tires - (diagnosed as
>> tire end rods that needed to be replaced) OK...
>>
>> Then the dealership tells me that the noise I am also hearing is due to
>> the water pump. And that it needed to be replaced. They want to
>> change the timing belt too while they are in there.
>>
>> Because, I said money was an issue, I did not want things changed if
>> they were OK. I don't hear anything from them and then everything has
>> been done, timing belt was changed....I asked for it to be put in my
>> car and I see no wear or tear on this belt. I bought this car with
>> 65,000 km (40,391 miles) and they had completed the major service.
>>
>> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
>> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
>> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
>> service 2 weeks prior.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>
> 120k km is the major service to replace the toothed belt according to my
> Audi schedule, that's on the 2.8 V6 model.
>
> I magine you went to an independant to get the 120k service done, and they
> did not know the Audi service intervals.
>
Ah sorry I did not see the bit where you said "timing belt was done" my
apologies.
All I can say is that in your quest to get it done cheaper, you have
bypassed the normal (I say normal) method of changing the Belts.
How it works is, the timing belt on an Audi A4 is a pita to do, it involves
removing the front bumper and swinging the front of the car round to reveal
the front of the engine, because it is such a shitty job to do you replace
the bits that are accessible while your are replacing the TB.
The parts that you replace when you change the belt are, the Water Pump,
Tensioners, Serpentine belt, Thermostat. The cost of these parts is around
£50.00 but the labour to fit them on their own is huge, but as you are
having the belt replaced you might as well do it as it takes approx 15 mins
to fit a new water pump, 15 mins to fit the thermostat and the same to fit
the serpentine.
You now have to go through the whole process of removing the bumper etc etc
and fit a new water pump which involves removing the timing belt etc.
You see the logic now?
With an Audi the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory does not always make
sense
hth
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
As you have had a new belt fitted the bearings on the water pump tend to go,
this is due to the "new" amount of pressure put on the water pump after the
change.
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
As you have had a new belt fitted the bearings on the water pump tend to go,
this is due to the "new" amount of pressure put on the water pump after the
change.
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Re: Water Pump/dealership Problems A4 2.8 Quatro
"Dana" <pperrd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What are the signs of a faulty water pump, my car was running great
> after the service (there were no temperature problems, any thing to
> indicate coolant was not flowing properly)
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> $1,500 is a big bill to pay when you just spent money on a complete
> service 2 weeks prior.
>
> Dana
>
As you have had a new belt fitted the bearings on the water pump tend to go,
this is due to the "new" amount of pressure put on the water pump after the
change.