LED Tail Lights
10-12-2003 | 03:01 PM
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LED Tail Lights
I'm interested in swapping out my rear brake / turn signal lights with LED
replacements in my '01 Audi A6.
Things I need to know are:
1. Who are the best manufacturers for replacement LED's? Websites?
2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from using
the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I do
to remedy?
3. Are there custom designed light replacements for Audis?
4. How much can I expect to spend?
Can anyone help?
Jim
replacements in my '01 Audi A6.
Things I need to know are:
1. Who are the best manufacturers for replacement LED's? Websites?
2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from using
the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I do
to remedy?
3. Are there custom designed light replacements for Audis?
4. How much can I expect to spend?
Can anyone help?
Jim
10-12-2003 | 10:54 PM
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Re: LED Tail Lights
Jim Arnau wrote:
> 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from using
> the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I do
> to remedy?
That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
--
Mike Smith
> 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from using
> the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I do
> to remedy?
That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
--
Mike Smith
10-13-2003 | 06:13 AM
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Re: LED Tail Lights
"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
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> Jim Arnau wrote:
>
> > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
using
> > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I
do
> > to remedy?
>
> That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
Ronald
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> Jim Arnau wrote:
>
> > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
using
> > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can I
do
> > to remedy?
>
> That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
Ronald
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10-13-2003 | 08:20 AM
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I seem to remember that the front and rear light check control operates by
comparing the one side's lamp resistance with the other (side's).
So, in theory, if you change both sides' lamps this should create to
resistance differences problem.
IF the resistance has to be of a predetermined value then maybe adding such
a resistance module per side will rectify the problem.
The autocheck warning light problem exists with those cars and owners who
have upgraded their front lights to HID Xenon ones instead of standard
halogen lamps.
In this case there is a procedure involving the cutting away of two items
inside the autocheck electronic module or relay.
Take care
Pantelis
"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > Jim Arnau wrote:
> >
> > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
> using
> > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can
I
> do
> > > to remedy?
> >
> > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Smith
> >
>
> FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
>
> Ronald
>
>
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comparing the one side's lamp resistance with the other (side's).
So, in theory, if you change both sides' lamps this should create to
resistance differences problem.
IF the resistance has to be of a predetermined value then maybe adding such
a resistance module per side will rectify the problem.
The autocheck warning light problem exists with those cars and owners who
have upgraded their front lights to HID Xenon ones instead of standard
halogen lamps.
In this case there is a procedure involving the cutting away of two items
inside the autocheck electronic module or relay.
Take care
Pantelis
"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > Jim Arnau wrote:
> >
> > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
> using
> > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can
I
> do
> > > to remedy?
> >
> > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Smith
> >
>
> FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
>
> Ronald
>
>
> ---
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10-13-2003 | 08:22 AM
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Re: LED Tail Lights
For an extensive range of all types of LEDs I would recommend you take a
closer look at this site
http://www.ledtronics.com/
Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
HTH
Pantelis
"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > Jim Arnau wrote:
> >
> > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
> using
> > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can
I
> do
> > > to remedy?
> >
> > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Smith
> >
>
> FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
>
> Ronald
>
>
> ---
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closer look at this site
http://www.ledtronics.com/
Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
HTH
Pantelis
"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > Jim Arnau wrote:
> >
> > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such) from
> using
> > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what can
I
> do
> > > to remedy?
> >
> > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I would
> > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Smith
> >
>
> FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
>
> Ronald
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free.
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10-13-2003 | 09:30 AM
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Re: LED Tail Lights
Any luck for us here in the UK for the same stuff?
Cheers, Jules
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"Pantelis Giamarellos" <pantg@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> For an extensive range of all types of LEDs I would recommend you take a
> closer look at this site
>
> http://www.ledtronics.com/
>
> Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
>
> HTH
> Pantelis
>
> "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
> news:vTuib.17614$732.1592638@zonnet-reader-1...
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > > Jim Arnau wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such)
from
> > using
> > > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what
can
> I
> > do
> > > > to remedy?
> > >
> > > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I
would
> > > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Smith
> > >
> >
> > FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> > drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> > problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
> >
> > Ronald
> >
> >
> > ---
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> >
> >
>
>
Cheers, Jules
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"Pantelis Giamarellos" <pantg@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> For an extensive range of all types of LEDs I would recommend you take a
> closer look at this site
>
> http://www.ledtronics.com/
>
> Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
>
> HTH
> Pantelis
>
> "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
> news:vTuib.17614$732.1592638@zonnet-reader-1...
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > > Jim Arnau wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such)
from
> > using
> > > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what
can
> I
> > do
> > > > to remedy?
> > >
> > > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I
would
> > > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would also
> > > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Smith
> > >
> >
> > FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> > drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without any
> > problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
> >
> > Ronald
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free.
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> >
> >
>
>
10-13-2003 | 09:51 AM
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Jules Hi,
They do have representatives and dealers in France and Germany.
Since I am also based in Europe (Greece in particular) I will be buying from
one of their EU based dealers to save on import duties. But I will first
sompare the prices.
Take care
Pantelis
"Dr Joolz" <jxm96c@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any luck for us here in the UK for the same stuff?
>
> Cheers, Jules
>
> --
> ***24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?***
> "Pantelis Giamarellos" <pantg@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> news:bme5db$lin1p$1@ID-196901.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > For an extensive range of all types of LEDs I would recommend you take a
> > closer look at this site
> >
> > http://www.ledtronics.com/
> >
> > Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
> >
> > HTH
> > Pantelis
> >
> > "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
> > news:vTuib.17614$732.1592638@zonnet-reader-1...
> > > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > > news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > > > Jim Arnau wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such)
> from
> > > using
> > > > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what
> can
> > I
> > > do
> > > > > to remedy?
> > > >
> > > > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I
> would
> > > > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would
also
> > > > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > > > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Smith
> > > >
> > >
> > > FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> > > drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without
any
> > > problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
> > >
> > > Ronald
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 09-10-2003
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
They do have representatives and dealers in France and Germany.
Since I am also based in Europe (Greece in particular) I will be buying from
one of their EU based dealers to save on import duties. But I will first
sompare the prices.
Take care
Pantelis
"Dr Joolz" <jxm96c@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any luck for us here in the UK for the same stuff?
>
> Cheers, Jules
>
> --
> ***24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?***
> "Pantelis Giamarellos" <pantg@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> news:bme5db$lin1p$1@ID-196901.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > For an extensive range of all types of LEDs I would recommend you take a
> > closer look at this site
> >
> > http://www.ledtronics.com/
> >
> > Have not bought anything from them but their range is impressive.
> >
> > HTH
> > Pantelis
> >
> > "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
> > news:vTuib.17614$732.1592638@zonnet-reader-1...
> > > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > > news:vok5023oe9tt8b@news.supernews.com...
> > > > Jim Arnau wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Are there computer side-effects (error messages and such)
> from
> > > using
> > > > > the low-power LED's versus the standard incandescent? If so what
> can
> > I
> > > do
> > > > > to remedy?
> > > >
> > > > That's an interesting question. An incandescent bulb will have, I
> would
> > > > think, a higher impedance than an LED array. Then again, I would
also
> > > > think that anyone manufacturing such a beast would take this into
> > > > account by putting a power resistor in series or some such.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Smith
> > > >
> > >
> > > FWIW Audi always made every part internally interchangable. Motors,
> > > drivetrains, headlights etc. all of them can be interchanged without
any
> > > problem. So I gather this goes also for LED lights.
> > >
> > > Ronald
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
10-15-2003 | 01:46 PM
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"Dr Joolz" <jxm96c@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any luck for us here in the UK for the same stuff?
>
> Cheers, Jules
>
> --
http://www.aceparts.com/
They sell them, £9.99 much cheaper than the american site. they want $43.00
per bulb
That guy sells on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=28644
Cheers
Ron
10-15-2003 | 02:31 PM
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"Ron" <ron@ron11.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dr Joolz" <jxm96c@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bme9cs$34i$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> > Any luck for us here in the UK for the same stuff?
> >
> > Cheers, Jules
> >
> > --
> http://www.aceparts.com/
>
> They sell them, £9.99 much cheaper than the american site. they want
$43.00
> per bulb
>
> That guy sells on ebay
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=28644
Very cool stuff...
Now I need to find a Canadian source for these things!
10-15-2003 | 08:44 PM
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"Phrederick" <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=28644
>
>Very cool stuff...
Although, the text says: "Use only 1/50th the power of a conventional
bulb"
This means 1/50 the normal current draw.. If your car has lamp
burn-out detection, then these things may trigger false bulb alerts.
To reply, please remove one letter from each side of "@"
Spammers can't possibly be human. so it must be OK to kill them.
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=28644
>
>Very cool stuff...
Although, the text says: "Use only 1/50th the power of a conventional
bulb"
This means 1/50 the normal current draw.. If your car has lamp
burn-out detection, then these things may trigger false bulb alerts.
To reply, please remove one letter from each side of "@"
Spammers can't possibly be human. so it must be OK to kill them.
