Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
12-22-2004 | 12:29 AM
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Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
professional of course)?
TIA
cp
onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
professional of course)?
TIA
cp
12-22-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
cp,
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
cp,
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
cp,
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
geez...sorry to hear about the accident - of course it could have been
worse - like a telephone pole in the median or a kid crossing the
road......we have a median in front of our house that has collected 2
westbound cars and 1 eastbound car over the past 2 years (mostly sleepy
drivers).
Look across the roof for wrinkles, along the body lines from back to front
to see if there are any bends, and look at panel transitions like where the
rear door meets the rear quarter panel to see if they've crashed into each
other. The Bentley manual has measurements that you can make to see if
there's been any body distortions. If you're buying lights, grille, a hood,
a subframe, an oil pan, engine and tranny mounts, etc., maybe you should be
looking in the online classifieds for a new 5ktq - the junkyards were at one
time fairly full of them, but since the scrap metal price (in North America)
is through the roof many yards around me have been squishing them for the
cash. You could get an estimate from a couple of autobody shops on the
repair and get them to see if the frame is out of wack. You probably could
repair the car without yanking on the unibody, and get a (4 wheel) alignment
to make it track decently, but any distortions will have an effect on the
suspension geometry and how it handles in turns, etc. As far as the
difficulty level, I'd imagine it would depend on how rusty the car is, but
I'm sure a shop could at least give you an estimate.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 09:35 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
12-22-2004 | 09:35 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
12-22-2004 | 09:35 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:7D7yd.6462$uj2.2031@clgrps12...
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
> Hi, I had dumb mishap with my '86 5000 TQ, I drove
> onto a median and knocked a small sign over. The front
> left tire was knocked out when the car went over the curb
> and it sprung a huge oil leak when I drove the car 100 feet
> to park it. The car drove fine (knocked out tire) but was there
> was a pool of oil, I don't think I caused any damage due to the
> oil leak. The car needs new lights and a new hood (the sign pierced a
> hole), I'm hoping there's no serious damage to the engine, other
> than the oil pan being ripped off. I'm worried that the unibody
> frame was perhaps bent, the driver door doesn't close as smooth
> as before. If there is frame damage, is it hard to fix (by a
> professional of course)?
>
> TIA
>
> cp
>
Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
Ronald
>
12-22-2004 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
> Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,
broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
12-22-2004 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
> Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,
broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
12-22-2004 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Dumb accident with '86 TQ, question about bent frame
> Everything is fixable the question is: is the car still worth it?
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,
broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
> You probably buy a 12 year younger one for the same price.
> But then, you may be attached to the car -like me.
yeh I likes it, it's in very nice condition (save a gash in the hood,broken light, very grooved oil pan, and a hanging bumper), not
a speck of rust, the thing was in a rich audi aficionado's garage
for all of it's life, if it wasn't for the quattro I'd dump and get another
one, I saw 4 non quattros in the paper today for between $500 and
$1500, definitely good for parts. hmmmmm I think I'll junk it and get
something recent, though the mortgage prevents anything too recent...
cp
