On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:55:59 +0100, Johannes H Andersen
<johs@sizefitter_nos_pam.com> wrote:

>For me, BMW are too common on the roads.

Not particularly "common" in the USA compared to most other cars.
More common in some areas than others though.

> I always have an
>image of BMW drivers being very pushy: "get out of my way" sort of thing.

Funny how they apparently have the same reputation worldwide. I
imagine
some of them are nice fellows... but many of them seem to have a bit
of an attitude problem.

 

"-Bob-" <uctraingNOSPAMME@ultranet.com> wrote in message
> > I always have an
> >image of BMW drivers being very pushy: "get out of my way" sort of thing.
>
> Funny how they apparently have the same reputation worldwide. I
> imagine
> some of them are nice fellows... but many of them seem to have a bit
> of an attitude problem.

If I judge myself I must be honest; after getting a BMW I did become more
aggresive on the road. But that didn't make me a worse driver. I still pay
attention on others.


--
Rajngla
t.

 

"Johannes H Andersen" <johs@sizefitter_nos_pam.com> wrote in message
news:409CB7EA.67A3A74A@sizefitter_nos_pam.com...
> Some BMW had engines that were dissolved by the petrol ...

The guy I go to for service had this problem with a used BMW he bought for
his wife. If you decide on a BMW make sure the year/model you buy does not
have this problem.

I had a '95 A6(2.Q wagon which I traded at approx. 140K (miles) and now
have almost 140K (miles) on a '98 A6(2.Q wagon. My repair and maintenance
costs have been pretty low. The single most expensive repair was around
$600 - but the car was barely out of warranty and Audi picked up half of
that. The timing belts have been somewhat expensive as I recall, but every
car needs that at rougly 60K.

I'm fussy about reliability and cheap, but I would not hesitate to buy
another Audi A6Q.

Good Luck, Bob

 

they are all very fine cars. IMHO BMW would be a much more enjoyable
ride. I have never owned a Saab or an Audi so I cannot compare
maintenance costs, but I would imagine they are all not so different.


-Bob- wrote:

>On Sat, 8 May 2004 07:29:02 -0700, "fbloogyudsr"
><fbloogyudsr@nwlink.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Might look at Lexus IS300 if you want Toyota reliability.
>>
>>
>
>But pay similar prices (at least in the USA) if you do need
>repairs.
>
>
>
>

 

"eBob.com" wrote:
>
> "Johannes H Andersen" <johs@sizefitter_nos_pam.com> wrote in message
> news:409CB7EA.67A3A74A@sizefitter_nos_pam.com...
> > Some BMW had engines that were dissolved by the petrol ...
>
> The guy I go to for service had this problem with a used BMW he bought for
> his wife. If you decide on a BMW make sure the year/model you buy does not
> have this problem.

Yes, imagine a lump of gooey paste under the car and no engine Anyway,
BMW keep track of all cars with this problem and will replace the engine
for free.

Jaguars were not included in the above. A software bug in auto boxes can
sometimes switch the box into reverse! Jaguar are recalling at the moment
and apparently not very happy.

> I had a '95 A6(2.Q wagon which I traded at approx. 140K (miles) and now
> have almost 140K (miles) on a '98 A6(2.Q wagon. My repair and maintenance
> costs have been pretty low. The single most expensive repair was around
> $600 - but the car was barely out of warranty and Audi picked up half of
> that. The timing belts have been somewhat expensive as I recall, but every
> car needs that at rougly 60K.

Well, not every car; Saabs use timing chains instead of belts .

>
> I'm fussy about reliability and cheap, but I would not hesitate to buy
> another Audi A6Q.

Nice enough motor, but pricey though.

 

speakeasy wrote:
> I'm looking at used Audis, Saabs, and bimmers, and wanted to get an idea of
> how costly repairs &
> maintenance would be. Most of the cars I'm looking at are in the '97-'99
> 50k+miles $12,000 range. I hear BMW costs the most. But what about the
> others? Considering the car has been well cared for, what is life like
> after 100k miles?
>
>

Now you are none the wiser, you will see there are more saabies out
here. Probably because SAAB being a smaller volumes manufacturer has
more of cult following (and GM will screw this up soon).

Where will you do the servicing?

If at a dealer of local mechanic spend your time finding out about the
quality of service you will get from them. (it will not be the same
everywhere although it should be). My point being it does not (should
not?) matter if one dealer/maker charges 100 USD more than another as
long as you get what you pay for!

Repairs, concentrate your mind on which exact cars from each make you
would like and then ask the questions. SAAB faults for example will
affect one model of a particular year(s) not every car (unless it uses
the v6 GM engine).

Regards
Charles

9000 CSE 2.0 LPT 1997
--

Please remove _removeme_ to reply.

 

Johannes H Andersen wrote:

>> The timing belts have
>> been somewhat expensive as I recall, but every car needs that at
>> rougly 60K.

> Well, not every car; Saabs use timing chains instead of belts .

Of course so do BMWs, at least all the ones sold in the USA.

Matt O.

 

"Johannes H Andersen" <johs@sizefitter_nos_pam.com> wrote in message
news:409CB7EA.67A3A74A@sizefitter_nos_pam.com...
> Some BMW had engines that were dissolved by the petrol

Not really the petrol, it was only high sulfer content fuel which was not
used in all geographical areas. This also only applied to those engines with
a nikasil bore treatment of aluminum engine blocks. This means it only
applied to the 3.0 and 4.0 liter V8 engines in the US and to certain
aluminum block 6 cylinder engines in the european market. No 6 cylinders in
the US market ever had the problem. Here is a good synopsis of the issue:

http://www.koalamotorsport.com/tech/...shortblock.htm

> and the digital odometer can be changed.

No more so than any other car's odometer. This is a non-issue IMO.

-Fred

 

In article <DrWcndfUnvc9xAHd38DK-w@speakeasy.net>,
speakeasy <cant@email.me> wrote:
>I'm looking at used Audis, Saabs, and bimmers, and wanted to get an idea of
>how costly repairs &
>maintenance would be. Most of the cars I'm looking at are in the '97-'99
>50k+miles $12,000 range. I hear BMW costs the most.

Why not call local mechanics (specialists in the brands, both dealer
and non-dealer) to get price estimates for the scheduled maintenance
intervals?

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On Mon, 10 May 2004 16:40:44 GMT, Timothy J. Lee <remove22@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> Why not call local mechanics (specialists in the brands, both dealer
> and non-dealer) to get price estimates for the scheduled maintenance
> intervals?

Good start, but some cars (current Saabs for instance) have that as a
free (well, included in the purchase price) service. Also, the
planned service may be more comprehensive on one than anotther.

Bottom line - they're all fine cars, with enthusiastic owners.
Decide what you want to spend, and then drive one of each at
that price point. Buy the one you like the best.

Dave Hinz