Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
12-10-2003 | 01:14 AM
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Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and how to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1
that I'd best start learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good familiarity with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted to know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on that may be problematic for my type of vehicle.
Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on. My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that it would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order for the pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that pump will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and brake problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the weather is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an oil change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons, I normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any more questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
Thanks,
Tony
that I'd best start learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good familiarity with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted to know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on that may be problematic for my type of vehicle.Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on. My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that it would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order for the pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that pump will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and brake problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the weather is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an oil change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons, I normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any more questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
Thanks,
Tony
12-10-2003 | 02:30 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Another type 44 recruit.
There is a lot of activity with these cars and the '89 200 is well
respected. Treat it nice and you will have a good ride.
Cullain wrote:
> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is
> severely limited. I really would like to take the time to get to
> know my car and how to treat it better.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off
> light is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn
> it back on. My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power
> steering pump and that it would fix the problems. I have already
> gone ahead and placed an order for the pump, but is that all that I
> need do you think?
Probably not. In fact the pump may not be the problem. These are
available from a number of places for a lot less than dealer prices.
Pumps can go bad but usually can be corrected with a cheap seal kit from
the dealer. Does the system have enough hydraulic fluid (Pentosin) in
the reservoir? If not it might be nearly dry and a previous owner might
have disabled the level sensor.
The system might have been leaking fluid from the steering rack. are the
rubber accordion covers (just behind the engine and low on the firewall)
wet from fluid? If so that might be the source of losing fluid and a
rebuilt rack is needed ( not too bad a job).
Are the hydraulic pump belts good?
I'm not sure if that pump will fix the ABS
> problem,
Nope, It won't. ABS light staying on is due to a problem in that system
alone. It could be due to a bad ABS wheel sensor but the most common
cause is a fuse being bad. It is located under the dash below the
steering wheel in the Axillary relay panel. You need to pull the cover
from below the dash to get to it but again quite easy job.
or if it will just fix the power steering and brake problem.
Yes.
> Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car and
> only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges
> $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my
> question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
If you check around at places like Autozone and Napa ... You should be
able to find it on the shelf for around $16 - $18 / liter. You want to
be sure the hydraulic system is not leaking before you pour too much on
the ground. 7.1 and 11S can be mixed but 11S is specified in your car.
The difference is in a higher boiling point of the 11S.
A common thing is to find that a previous owner has used Power steering
fluid. If this has happened both steering rack and brake servo will
probably need replacing : (
If this has happened but not too long ago you could try flushing the
system with Pentosin and may luck out.
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that
> goes over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I
> should try getting?
Not sure what you are describing.
If so what is it called so I can get one? Also,
> I live in Central Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's
> becoming snowy and the weather is getting to be a little more nasty
> and cold. I really need to get an oil change as it's now been 1,000
> miles over (only due to financial reasons, I normally get it changed
> every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil for me to get
> with my weather and car in mind?
I would run 5W30. Use Mobile1 and give it a treat : )
I don't really have any more
> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
You may want to visit AudiWorld forums for your car. Lots of action
there and a lot of kids your age are really in to these great cars.
http://forums.audiworld.com/v8/
Drop in and say hi. There are a bunch from around your area too.
Tony
'91 100q 5spd
There is a lot of activity with these cars and the '89 200 is well
respected. Treat it nice and you will have a good ride.
Cullain wrote:
> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is
> severely limited. I really would like to take the time to get to
> know my car and how to treat it better.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off
> light is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn
> it back on. My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power
> steering pump and that it would fix the problems. I have already
> gone ahead and placed an order for the pump, but is that all that I
> need do you think?
Probably not. In fact the pump may not be the problem. These are
available from a number of places for a lot less than dealer prices.
Pumps can go bad but usually can be corrected with a cheap seal kit from
the dealer. Does the system have enough hydraulic fluid (Pentosin) in
the reservoir? If not it might be nearly dry and a previous owner might
have disabled the level sensor.
The system might have been leaking fluid from the steering rack. are the
rubber accordion covers (just behind the engine and low on the firewall)
wet from fluid? If so that might be the source of losing fluid and a
rebuilt rack is needed ( not too bad a job).
Are the hydraulic pump belts good?
I'm not sure if that pump will fix the ABS
> problem,
Nope, It won't. ABS light staying on is due to a problem in that system
alone. It could be due to a bad ABS wheel sensor but the most common
cause is a fuse being bad. It is located under the dash below the
steering wheel in the Axillary relay panel. You need to pull the cover
from below the dash to get to it but again quite easy job.
or if it will just fix the power steering and brake problem.
Yes.
> Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car and
> only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges
> $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my
> question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
If you check around at places like Autozone and Napa ... You should be
able to find it on the shelf for around $16 - $18 / liter. You want to
be sure the hydraulic system is not leaking before you pour too much on
the ground. 7.1 and 11S can be mixed but 11S is specified in your car.
The difference is in a higher boiling point of the 11S.
A common thing is to find that a previous owner has used Power steering
fluid. If this has happened both steering rack and brake servo will
probably need replacing : (
If this has happened but not too long ago you could try flushing the
system with Pentosin and may luck out.
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that
> goes over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I
> should try getting?
Not sure what you are describing.
If so what is it called so I can get one? Also,
> I live in Central Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's
> becoming snowy and the weather is getting to be a little more nasty
> and cold. I really need to get an oil change as it's now been 1,000
> miles over (only due to financial reasons, I normally get it changed
> every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil for me to get
> with my weather and car in mind?
I would run 5W30. Use Mobile1 and give it a treat : )
I don't really have any more
> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
You may want to visit AudiWorld forums for your car. Lots of action
there and a lot of kids your age are really in to these great cars.
http://forums.audiworld.com/v8/
Drop in and say hi. There are a bunch from around your area too.
Tony
'91 100q 5spd
12-10-2003 | 07:56 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 Quattro)
Congratulations.
I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I have
been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks on
mine.
Good luck with it,
Bill Graham
--------------
1989 200TQ
> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
> limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and how
> to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1 that I'd best start
> learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good familiarity
> with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted to
> know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on that may
> be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light is on
> constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on. My
> mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that it
> would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order for the
> pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that pump
> will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and brake
> problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car
> and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges $25
> for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question is do
> I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes over
> the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
> getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central
> Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the weather
> is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an oil
> change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons, I
> normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil
> for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any more
> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I have
been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks on
mine.
Good luck with it,
Bill Graham
--------------
1989 200TQ
> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
> limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and how
> to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1
that I'd best start> learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good familiarity
> with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted to
> know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on that may
> be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light is on
> constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on. My
> mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that it
> would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order for the
> pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that pump
> will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and brake
> problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the car
> and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here charges $25
> for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question is do
> I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes over
> the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
> getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central
> Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the weather
> is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an oil
> change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons, I
> normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity of oil
> for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any more
> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
12-10-2003 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 Quattro)
Bill,
In North America, in general - 200 = turbo, 100 = non-turbo
He has the same car.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BBFC8281.221DE%whgraham@nc.rr.com...
> Congratulations.
>
> I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I
have
> been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks
on
> mine.
>
> Good luck with it,
>
> Bill Graham
> --------------
> 1989 200TQ
>
>
> > Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
> > limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and
how
> > to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1 that I'd best
start
> > learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
familiarity
> > with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted
to
> > know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on
that may
> > be problematic for my type of vehicle.
> >
> > Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
is on
> > constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
My
> > mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
it
> > would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
for the
> > pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that
pump
> > will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and
brake
> > problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the
car
> > and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here
charges $25
> > for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question
is do
> > I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
> >
> > I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
over
> > the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
> > getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in
Central
> > Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
weather
> > is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an
oil
> > change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons,
I
> > normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity
of oil
> > for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any
more
> > questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
In North America, in general - 200 = turbo, 100 = non-turbo
He has the same car.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BBFC8281.221DE%whgraham@nc.rr.com...
> Congratulations.
>
> I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I
have
> been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks
on
> mine.
>
> Good luck with it,
>
> Bill Graham
> --------------
> 1989 200TQ
>
>
> > Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
> > limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and
how
> > to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1
that I'd beststart
> > learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
familiarity
> > with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted
to
> > know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on
that may
> > be problematic for my type of vehicle.
> >
> > Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
is on
> > constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
My
> > mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
it
> > would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
for the
> > pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that
pump
> > will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and
brake
> > problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the
car
> > and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here
charges $25
> > for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question
is do
> > I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
> >
> > I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
over
> > the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
> > getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in
Central
> > Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
weather
> > is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an
oil
> > change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons,
I
> > normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity
of oil
> > for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any
more
> > questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
12-10-2003 | 10:36 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Tony,
Get a Bentley Manual for your car if you are going to do any serious DIY
stuff - look on eBay for that. Also, getting a copy of the Family Album is
very important - winkwinknudgenudge - ask a local Audi nut for a copy (or
where to get one) - note that if you are running Windows XP you may
encounter some problems running it. The latter may help you with questions
like, "What is this called?" and "What should go here but was removed by the
nth owner?"
When my car was leaking PS fluid like a sieve, I used to buy the fluid from
the dealer in bulk - just provide a clean container. It was a false
economy, though, it was cheaper to fix the leak with a replacement pump (a
ZF rebuild from a local wrecker).
For some web-based help on your car,
www.sjmautotechnik.com - Scott Mockry's invaluable web site
also, (from recent posting to Bill's question) try:
www.audifans.com - mostly owners of older Audis (pre-1995) here - searching
the archives will provide you with a ton of repair tips and tricks and
troubleshooting help. Check the archives, if you don't find an answer, then
post a question to the group.
A few of the folks on the Audifans site are developing a "Knowledgebase" to
simplify the search for repair/troubleshooting/upgrading/etc. stuff.
www.audiworld.com - the 100/200/5000/V8 forum (aka the V8 forum) discusses
Type 44 stuff. I find that there's a bit too much "RahRah Audi" and fluff
(the posting is all in the subject line, and the signature line of some is
like a parts bin inventory/ingredient list of what's been put on the
person's car) going on at Audiworld (read CR's posting about the respective
German marque clubs) - As a Type 44 owner there's just some things that I
(and many others) curse Audi for - like fragile doorhandle parts (search for
"Team Doorhandle"), overly complex brake hydraulics (search for "Brake
Bomb"), etc.
All that said, however, I enjoy my car immensely despite its faults. It had
countless owners before I got it, and after working through some super
frustrating problems caused by PO (previous owner) neglect - like a blown
headgasket and cooling system problems - I now have an excellent daily
driver that I mostly do routine maintenance on.
Keep JPF's contact info if you get the car - he's a good guy to know in this
biz.
For new parts - www.audiquattroparts.com , www.zzmotors.com , and others
dealers are on the web. For used parts - check www.car-part.com or with
specialized Audi recyclers like Shokan at www.800allaudi.com
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Cullain" <tpezzati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and how
to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1 that I'd best
start learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
familiarity with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just
wanted to know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check
on that may be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
it would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
for the pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if
that pump will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power
steering and brake problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power
fluid for the car and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer
over here charges $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for
cheaper, now my question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central
Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
weather is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get
an oil change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial
reasons, I normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best
viscosity of oil for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't
really have any more questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
Get a Bentley Manual for your car if you are going to do any serious DIY
stuff - look on eBay for that. Also, getting a copy of the Family Album is
very important - winkwinknudgenudge - ask a local Audi nut for a copy (or
where to get one) - note that if you are running Windows XP you may
encounter some problems running it. The latter may help you with questions
like, "What is this called?" and "What should go here but was removed by the
nth owner?"
When my car was leaking PS fluid like a sieve, I used to buy the fluid from
the dealer in bulk - just provide a clean container. It was a false
economy, though, it was cheaper to fix the leak with a replacement pump (a
ZF rebuild from a local wrecker).
For some web-based help on your car,
www.sjmautotechnik.com - Scott Mockry's invaluable web site
also, (from recent posting to Bill's question) try:
www.audifans.com - mostly owners of older Audis (pre-1995) here - searching
the archives will provide you with a ton of repair tips and tricks and
troubleshooting help. Check the archives, if you don't find an answer, then
post a question to the group.
A few of the folks on the Audifans site are developing a "Knowledgebase" to
simplify the search for repair/troubleshooting/upgrading/etc. stuff.
www.audiworld.com - the 100/200/5000/V8 forum (aka the V8 forum) discusses
Type 44 stuff. I find that there's a bit too much "RahRah Audi" and fluff
(the posting is all in the subject line, and the signature line of some is
like a parts bin inventory/ingredient list of what's been put on the
person's car) going on at Audiworld (read CR's posting about the respective
German marque clubs) - As a Type 44 owner there's just some things that I
(and many others) curse Audi for - like fragile doorhandle parts (search for
"Team Doorhandle"), overly complex brake hydraulics (search for "Brake
Bomb"), etc.
All that said, however, I enjoy my car immensely despite its faults. It had
countless owners before I got it, and after working through some super
frustrating problems caused by PO (previous owner) neglect - like a blown
headgasket and cooling system problems - I now have an excellent daily
driver that I mostly do routine maintenance on.
Keep JPF's contact info if you get the car - he's a good guy to know in this
biz.
For new parts - www.audiquattroparts.com , www.zzmotors.com , and others
dealers are on the web. For used parts - check www.car-part.com or with
specialized Audi recyclers like Shokan at www.800allaudi.com
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Cullain" <tpezzati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and how
to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1
that I'd beststart learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
familiarity with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just
wanted to know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check
on that may be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>
> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
is on constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
My mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
it would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
for the pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if
that pump will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power
steering and brake problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power
fluid for the car and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer
over here charges $25 for it and I know that I can get it online for
cheaper, now my question is do I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>
> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
over the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in Central
Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
weather is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get
an oil change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial
reasons, I normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best
viscosity of oil for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't
really have any more questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
12-10-2003 | 05:35 PM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 Quattro)
How silly am I? Very.
Thanks,
Bill
> Bill,
> In North America, in general - 200 = turbo, 100 = non-turbo
> He has the same car.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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> "Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BBFC8281.221DE%whgraham@nc.rr.com...
>> Congratulations.
>>
>> I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I
> have
>> been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks
> on
>> mine.
>>
>> Good luck with it,
>>
>> Bill Graham
>> --------------
>> 1989 200TQ
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
>>> limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and
> how
>>> to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1 that I'd best
> start
>>> learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
> familiarity
>>> with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted
> to
>>> know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on
> that may
>>> be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>>>
>>> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
> is on
>>> constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
> My
>>> mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
> it
>>> would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
> for the
>>> pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that
> pump
>>> will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and
> brake
>>> problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the
> car
>>> and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here
> charges $25
>>> for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question
> is do
>>> I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>>>
>>> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
> over
>>> the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
>>> getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in
> Central
>>> Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
> weather
>>> is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an
> oil
>>> change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons,
> I
>>> normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity
> of oil
>>> for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any
> more
>>> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>
>
>
Thanks,
Bill
> Bill,
> In North America, in general - 200 = turbo, 100 = non-turbo
> He has the same car.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> "Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BBFC8281.221DE%whgraham@nc.rr.com...
>> Congratulations.
>>
>> I've got the same car, but with the turbo. So far, I'm loving it, and I
> have
>> been bugging the fellows here a whole bunch about the weird little quirks
> on
>> mine.
>>
>> Good luck with it,
>>
>> Bill Graham
>> --------------
>> 1989 200TQ
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I own an 1989 Audi 200 quattro and my knowledge on cars is severely
>>> limited. I really would like to take the time to get to know my car and
> how
>>> to treat it better. And I figure since I'm so young (1
that I'd best> start
>>> learning. I have a pretty good mechanic who has a pretty good
> familiarity
>>> with Audi's, however he still doesn't know everything and I just wanted
> to
>>> know of some specific things that I should possibly have him check on
> that may
>>> be problematic for my type of vehicle.
>>>
>>> Right now I have no power brakes, or steering, and my antilock off light
> is on
>>> constantly, even when I push the ABS button on it to turn it back on.
> My
>>> mechanic told me that I needed to get a new power steering pump and that
> it
>>> would fix the problems. I have already gone ahead and placed an order
> for the
>>> pump, but is that all that I need do you think? I'm not sure if that
> pump
>>> will fix the ABS problem, or if it will just fix the power steering and
> brake
>>> problem. Also, he said I need to get the synthetic power fluid for the
> car
>>> and only can get it direct at Audi, but the Audi dealer over here
> charges $25
>>> for it and I know that I can get it online for cheaper, now my question
> is do
>>> I get the Pentosin CHF 7.1, or the 11S?
>>>
>>> I don't know what it's called but I don't have where the flap that goes
> over
>>> the space where my air filter is. Is this something that I should try
>>> getting? If so what is it called so I can get one? Also, I live in
> Central
>>> Oregon, and it's becoming that time where it's becoming snowy and the
> weather
>>> is getting to be a little more nasty and cold. I really need to get an
> oil
>>> change as it's now been 1,000 miles over (only due to financial reasons,
> I
>>> normally get it changed every 2,500 miles), what is the best viscosity
> of oil
>>> for me to get with my weather and car in mind? I don't really have any
> more
>>> questions right now but I'm sure I will again soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>
>
>
12-10-2003 | 07:43 PM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Thanks for the quick replies guys, I did check the auxillary fuses and from what I can discern (remember I'm pretty new at this) the fuses were ok. I do recall hearing a slight kind of whirring sound from the brakes on occasion and it feels like its the front driver side brake. I was kind of reading up on it a little and it seems that it could be my ABS sensor? Am I correct in assuming this? It says to have it cleaned and if that doesn't work to get it replaced.
Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer work, just the passenger side, as well as the driver's heated seat doesn't work, but only on the driver's seat, not the rear passenger. I recall reading that it could be the heating pad that is causing the problem, am I correct in that?
Thanks,
Tony
Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer work, just the passenger side, as well as the driver's heated seat doesn't work, but only on the driver's seat, not the rear passenger. I recall reading that it could be the heating pad that is causing the problem, am I correct in that?
Thanks,
Tony
12-11-2003 | 12:55 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Cullain wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replies guys, I did check the auxiliary fuses
> and from what I can discern (remember I'm pretty new at this) the
> fuses were ok. I do recall hearing a slight kind of whirring sound
> from the brakes on occasion and it feels like its the front driver
> side brake.
When ABS works you will hear it and feel vibration on the pedal.
I was kind of reading up on it a little and it seems
> that it could be my ABS sensor? Am I correct in assuming this? It
> says to have it cleaned and if that doesn't work to get it replaced.
Could be but checking them takes quite technical equipment. Look for
obvious problems like may be a rock hit but they are fairly protected.
Their distance from the ridges on the axle is very critical so don't
just pull them out to look as you will probably make more problems than
you solve.
> Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer
> work, just the passenger side,
Get out your volt meter and have fun : )
as well as the driver's heated seat
> doesn't work, but only on the driver's seat, not the rear passenger.
> I recall reading that it could be the heating pad that is causing the
> problem, am I correct in that?
Fairly common because drivers seat is used the most and takes the most
abuse. Probably the element. Can be fixed but plan to spend time pulling
the seat apart. Others have re soldered these with success.
Tony
'91 100q 5spd
12-11-2003 | 09:51 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
Tony,
The whirring noise would be either a bad bearing (very common) or warped
rotors (also common - if you are doing hard braking to a stop, make sure
that you stop with extra space, and then roll a bit forward after a full
stop to allow the rotor to cool more evenly). You wouldn't hear the sensor.
If you search in Audifans, or on Scott Mockry's site, you'll find some stuff
on the sensors. Most commonly the teeth on the cv joint get rusty, and the
sensor gets crudded up with rust flakes. If you have an oscilloscope you
can hook it up to the ABS leads and spin the wheel to see what the sensor
output is. Also, if any CV joint work or bearing replacements were done,
then the sensor(s) may be improperly adjusted. You can fix the adjustment
by pulling the sensor, but you have to replace the "ablative caps" - the
sacrificial plastic caps on the tip of the sensor that get chewed by the ABS
teeth - they can only be used to adjust the position once. You can get a
set of caps from the dealer. If you are going to re-seat the sensors, make
sure that you clean the teeth on the CV joint - this is best done by
removing the CV from the bearing - then use a wire wheel/dental pick/spot
sandblaster/??? to remove the rust, and then coat with paint (like POR15) to
slow rust reappearance.
The seat (there is only one power PS seat, isn't there?) may be a power
supply issue, or a motor issue - the seat comes out with the removal of
about 3 trim screws (in the track trim at the rear), and two bolts (13mm
socket - at the front). Pull the seat out and see if there's power going
there, and if the connector is plugged in.
The seat heater, like TonyJ said, is probably a broken heater wire. You
have to pull the seat cover off (major PITA - not the flatbread), then
remove the heater element. Small brown spots in the fabric over the wire
may show where it is broken. Stab the wire with pins and use an ohmmeter
between pins - no continuity = break(s) between pins. The wire is a nickel
alloy, so it will be nearly impossible to solder - the best solution (thanks
to Huw Powell at www.humanspeakers.com/audi ) is to bare the wire ends, slip
a length of super small heat shrink tubing on, twist the wires together and
bond them with the heat shrink. It's a huge job to do just to get your
netherregions warm. I did it once - just because I was fixing the seat
cover. Possibly a better solution may be to get the heater pad from the
passenger side of a wreck in the local junkyard - many times less bums have
sat there than the driver's seat in a given car. In any case, the fix will
not last forever.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - original seats ("mouse fur") did not heat, second set (1991
leather) heated too well (= ow! my N*&#$ are on fire!!!!), the third set
(1988 Olympic Sport Leather) don't work...oh well....
1980 Audi 5k - driver's side heater fixed, now I don't sit there (too afraid
to break it again)
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - using the mouse nests (and
critters inside) in the seats to keep my butt warm.
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"Cullain" <tpezzati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a1b954ee8614eea3579abb8685857fb8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Thanks for the quick replies guys, I did check the auxillary fuses and
from what I can discern (remember I'm pretty new at this) the fuses were ok.
I do recall hearing a slight kind of whirring sound from the brakes on
occasion and it feels like its the front driver side brake. I was kind of
reading up on it a little and it seems that it could be my ABS sensor? Am I
correct in assuming this? It says to have it cleaned and if that doesn't
work to get it replaced.
>
> Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer work,
just the passenger side, as well as the driver's heated seat doesn't work,
but only on the driver's seat, not the rear passenger. I recall reading
that it could be the heating pad that is causing the problem, am I correct
in that?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
The whirring noise would be either a bad bearing (very common) or warped
rotors (also common - if you are doing hard braking to a stop, make sure
that you stop with extra space, and then roll a bit forward after a full
stop to allow the rotor to cool more evenly). You wouldn't hear the sensor.
If you search in Audifans, or on Scott Mockry's site, you'll find some stuff
on the sensors. Most commonly the teeth on the cv joint get rusty, and the
sensor gets crudded up with rust flakes. If you have an oscilloscope you
can hook it up to the ABS leads and spin the wheel to see what the sensor
output is. Also, if any CV joint work or bearing replacements were done,
then the sensor(s) may be improperly adjusted. You can fix the adjustment
by pulling the sensor, but you have to replace the "ablative caps" - the
sacrificial plastic caps on the tip of the sensor that get chewed by the ABS
teeth - they can only be used to adjust the position once. You can get a
set of caps from the dealer. If you are going to re-seat the sensors, make
sure that you clean the teeth on the CV joint - this is best done by
removing the CV from the bearing - then use a wire wheel/dental pick/spot
sandblaster/??? to remove the rust, and then coat with paint (like POR15) to
slow rust reappearance.
The seat (there is only one power PS seat, isn't there?) may be a power
supply issue, or a motor issue - the seat comes out with the removal of
about 3 trim screws (in the track trim at the rear), and two bolts (13mm
socket - at the front). Pull the seat out and see if there's power going
there, and if the connector is plugged in.
The seat heater, like TonyJ said, is probably a broken heater wire. You
have to pull the seat cover off (major PITA - not the flatbread), then
remove the heater element. Small brown spots in the fabric over the wire
may show where it is broken. Stab the wire with pins and use an ohmmeter
between pins - no continuity = break(s) between pins. The wire is a nickel
alloy, so it will be nearly impossible to solder - the best solution (thanks
to Huw Powell at www.humanspeakers.com/audi ) is to bare the wire ends, slip
a length of super small heat shrink tubing on, twist the wires together and
bond them with the heat shrink. It's a huge job to do just to get your
netherregions warm. I did it once - just because I was fixing the seat
cover. Possibly a better solution may be to get the heater pad from the
passenger side of a wreck in the local junkyard - many times less bums have
sat there than the driver's seat in a given car. In any case, the fix will
not last forever.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - original seats ("mouse fur") did not heat, second set (1991
leather) heated too well (= ow! my N*&#$ are on fire!!!!), the third set
(1988 Olympic Sport Leather) don't work...oh well....
1980 Audi 5k - driver's side heater fixed, now I don't sit there (too afraid
to break it again)
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - using the mouse nests (and
critters inside) in the seats to keep my butt warm.
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"Cullain" <tpezzati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a1b954ee8614eea3579abb8685857fb8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Thanks for the quick replies guys, I did check the auxillary fuses and
from what I can discern (remember I'm pretty new at this) the fuses were ok.
I do recall hearing a slight kind of whirring sound from the brakes on
occasion and it feels like its the front driver side brake. I was kind of
reading up on it a little and it seems that it could be my ABS sensor? Am I
correct in assuming this? It says to have it cleaned and if that doesn't
work to get it replaced.
>
> Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer work,
just the passenger side, as well as the driver's heated seat doesn't work,
but only on the driver's seat, not the rear passenger. I recall reading
that it could be the heating pad that is causing the problem, am I correct
in that?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
12-11-2003 | 11:00 AM
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Re: Car help/advice (1989 Audi 200 quattro)
"TonyJ" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote in message
news:3fd805d5$0$957$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com.. .
>
>
> Cullain wrote:
>
> > Also I also remembered that the passenger side power seats no longer
> > work, just the passenger side,
>
> Get out your volt meter and have fun : )
But *not* before you get a $6-7 can of aerosol contact cleaner (Radio Shack
sells it as "Tuner Cleaner" - *scented and unscented* - I you not!) and
shoot in directly into the switches. Audi's small interior switches (seats,
windows, and cruise control) are notorious for 'gunking up' at this age and
the *fastest and easiest* way to fix them is simply shoot contact cleaner
into them, wait a day (sometimes only a few minutes), and try them. You
don't even have to remove them. Just shoot it into the cracks. The only
reason this isn't also the *cheapest* fix is that you can *manually* remove
them, disassemble them, and scrape the crud off them in no less than a
couple of hours ... but what is *your* time worth?
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that)
