Re: Bad Drivers
 

On 15 Jul 2005 08:53:41 -0700, gcmschemist@gmail.com wrote:

>In most states, "keep right except to pass" is codified into law. When
>it's posted on rectangular black&white signs (like speed limit signs),
>it's not advisory. (Like diamond black and yellow signs.)
>
>Enforcement is just about non-existant, however.

I've asked police friends of mine about left lane bandits and they say
they *do* give them a ticket when it is outrageous (i.e., 50 in a 65).
The uncaring culprit is guilty of "cruising" according to my friends.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On 15 Jul 2005 08:53:41 -0700, gcmschemist@gmail.com wrote:

>In most states, "keep right except to pass" is codified into law. When
>it's posted on rectangular black&white signs (like speed limit signs),
>it's not advisory. (Like diamond black and yellow signs.)
>
>Enforcement is just about non-existant, however.

I've asked police friends of mine about left lane bandits and they say
they *do* give them a ticket when it is outrageous (i.e., 50 in a 65).
The uncaring culprit is guilty of "cruising" according to my friends.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>
>
>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>
>
> And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
> sense, lad?

Keep your insults to yourself, . I never said *I* drive that
way, or that I think people *should* drive that way, I was simply citing
the relevant law in New York State. Jump to conclusions much?

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>
>
>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>
>
> And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
> sense, lad?

Keep your insults to yourself, . I never said *I* drive that
way, or that I think people *should* drive that way, I was simply citing
the relevant law in New York State. Jump to conclusions much?

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>
>
>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>
>
> And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
> sense, lad?

Keep your insults to yourself, . I never said *I* drive that
way, or that I think people *should* drive that way, I was simply citing
the relevant law in New York State. Jump to conclusions much?

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

gcmschemist@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>>
>>And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
>>sense, lad?
>
>
> No, he's just a MFFY driver. (Me first, fsck you.)
>
> Drive right, pass left, leave speed enforcement to the professionals.
> It's called "common courtesy", which seems to be quite uncommon.

Where the hell do you guys get off concluding that I don't drive-right/
pass-left, just because I cited a NYS law? Boy, aren't we prejudiced
around here...

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

gcmschemist@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>>
>>And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
>>sense, lad?
>
>
> No, he's just a MFFY driver. (Me first, fsck you.)
>
> Drive right, pass left, leave speed enforcement to the professionals.
> It's called "common courtesy", which seems to be quite uncommon.

Where the hell do you guys get off concluding that I don't drive-right/
pass-left, just because I cited a NYS law? Boy, aren't we prejudiced
around here...

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

gcmschemist@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:54:41 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There's nothing in the NY law
>>>that says you can't park your ass in the left lane of a divided highway
>>>and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
>>
>>And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No common
>>sense, lad?
>
>
> No, he's just a MFFY driver. (Me first, fsck you.)
>
> Drive right, pass left, leave speed enforcement to the professionals.
> It's called "common courtesy", which seems to be quite uncommon.

Where the hell do you guys get off concluding that I don't drive-right/
pass-left, just because I cited a NYS law? Boy, aren't we prejudiced
around here...

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Keep your insults to yourself, .

Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Keep your insults to yourself, .

Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Keep your insults to yourself, .

Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Keep your insults to yourself, .
>
>
> Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Keep your insults to yourself, .
>
>
> Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:49 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Keep your insults to yourself, .
>
>
> Tweeeet! Name calling. I win. Thank you for playing.

I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2005 05:28:47 -0700, "Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>So Dave, you only had a hint of NJ drivers, assuming you took the NJ
>>Turnpike.... I learned to drive in Massachusetts and lived there for 15
>>years and thought THEY were bad until I moved to NJ.... They are the
>>WORST here, as you have a lot of people that really don't know how to
>>drive but do it fast anyways. And the more clapped-out the car is, the
>>faster they go. Talk about frusternation!
>
>
> I didn't take the NJ turnpike. I used I84 and I81 to avoid NY, NJ,
> MD, and DC. You are correct about Mass drivers, but they aren't as
> bad as VA or CT, and we won't even mention NY. d;o)

That's pretty amazing how you drove on I84 and I81, and yet managed to
avoid New York. I've never been able to pull that one off, myself.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2005 05:28:47 -0700, "Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>So Dave, you only had a hint of NJ drivers, assuming you took the NJ
>>Turnpike.... I learned to drive in Massachusetts and lived there for 15
>>years and thought THEY were bad until I moved to NJ.... They are the
>>WORST here, as you have a lot of people that really don't know how to
>>drive but do it fast anyways. And the more clapped-out the car is, the
>>faster they go. Talk about frusternation!
>
>
> I didn't take the NJ turnpike. I used I84 and I81 to avoid NY, NJ,
> MD, and DC. You are correct about Mass drivers, but they aren't as
> bad as VA or CT, and we won't even mention NY. d;o)

That's pretty amazing how you drove on I84 and I81, and yet managed to
avoid New York. I've never been able to pull that one off, myself.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2005 05:28:47 -0700, "Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>So Dave, you only had a hint of NJ drivers, assuming you took the NJ
>>Turnpike.... I learned to drive in Massachusetts and lived there for 15
>>years and thought THEY were bad until I moved to NJ.... They are the
>>WORST here, as you have a lot of people that really don't know how to
>>drive but do it fast anyways. And the more clapped-out the car is, the
>>faster they go. Talk about frusternation!
>
>
> I didn't take the NJ turnpike. I used I84 and I81 to avoid NY, NJ,
> MD, and DC. You are correct about Mass drivers, but they aren't as
> bad as VA or CT, and we won't even mention NY. d;o)

That's pretty amazing how you drove on I84 and I81, and yet managed to
avoid New York. I've never been able to pull that one off, myself.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
know how it is.

Be well. (And I mean that.)

Dave d;o)

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
know how it is.

Be well. (And I mean that.)

Dave d;o)

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.

My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
know how it is.

Be well. (And I mean that.)

Dave d;o)

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:55:45 -0700, gcmschemist wrote:

>
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
> [snip sad tale of common occurance]
>
>>
>> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>>
>
> No flames here, Dave. Go to rec.autos.driving - this is the biggest
> issue for folks over there. LLBs and folks oblivious to their
> surroundings are a blight on our roadways.
>
> Over there, the term used for the Saturn occupant (not to call her a
> driver in any sense) is MFFY - me first, fsck you.
>
> I get it driving here in WA as well - the I-5 corridor is filled with
> folks who cannot grasp the state law saying "keep right except to
> pass." (KRETP). Oh, and those brain-dead "enablers" - the folks that
> will let anyone zoom up and cut into line, or wave at you at an
> intersection where they legally have the right of way, but feel the
> need to show "courtesy."
>
> Yes, r.a.d. is the place where we talk about this...
>
> E.P.

I agree, most of america is infested with poor, rude drivers, lacking
manners and road skills, I too have spent many years in Europe driving and
having to unlearn much of what I have seen in the US. As far east as
Greece and Isreal they drive far better than they do here. I think part of
it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
vehicles.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:55:45 -0700, gcmschemist wrote:

>
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
> [snip sad tale of common occurance]
>
>>
>> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>>
>
> No flames here, Dave. Go to rec.autos.driving - this is the biggest
> issue for folks over there. LLBs and folks oblivious to their
> surroundings are a blight on our roadways.
>
> Over there, the term used for the Saturn occupant (not to call her a
> driver in any sense) is MFFY - me first, fsck you.
>
> I get it driving here in WA as well - the I-5 corridor is filled with
> folks who cannot grasp the state law saying "keep right except to
> pass." (KRETP). Oh, and those brain-dead "enablers" - the folks that
> will let anyone zoom up and cut into line, or wave at you at an
> intersection where they legally have the right of way, but feel the
> need to show "courtesy."
>
> Yes, r.a.d. is the place where we talk about this...
>
> E.P.

I agree, most of america is infested with poor, rude drivers, lacking
manners and road skills, I too have spent many years in Europe driving and
having to unlearn much of what I have seen in the US. As far east as
Greece and Isreal they drive far better than they do here. I think part of
it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
vehicles.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:55:45 -0700, gcmschemist wrote:

>
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
> [snip sad tale of common occurance]
>
>>
>> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>>
>
> No flames here, Dave. Go to rec.autos.driving - this is the biggest
> issue for folks over there. LLBs and folks oblivious to their
> surroundings are a blight on our roadways.
>
> Over there, the term used for the Saturn occupant (not to call her a
> driver in any sense) is MFFY - me first, fsck you.
>
> I get it driving here in WA as well - the I-5 corridor is filled with
> folks who cannot grasp the state law saying "keep right except to
> pass." (KRETP). Oh, and those brain-dead "enablers" - the folks that
> will let anyone zoom up and cut into line, or wave at you at an
> intersection where they legally have the right of way, but feel the
> need to show "courtesy."
>
> Yes, r.a.d. is the place where we talk about this...
>
> E.P.

I agree, most of america is infested with poor, rude drivers, lacking
manners and road skills, I too have spent many years in Europe driving and
having to unlearn much of what I have seen in the US. As far east as
Greece and Isreal they drive far better than they do here. I think part of
it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
vehicles.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

David Timothy Jones wrote:

>... I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

There's some truth in that. Moving a car (note: not _driving_ it)
becomes like using a toy. This is slowly coming up here too, but it's
not as bad yet.


Regards

Wolfgang

Re: Bad Drivers
 

David Timothy Jones wrote:

>... I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

There's some truth in that. Moving a car (note: not _driving_ it)
becomes like using a toy. This is slowly coming up here too, but it's
not as bad yet.


Regards

Wolfgang

Re: Bad Drivers
 

David Timothy Jones wrote:

>... I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

There's some truth in that. Moving a car (note: not _driving_ it)
becomes like using a toy. This is slowly coming up here too, but it's
not as bad yet.


Regards

Wolfgang

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
<david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

>I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

d;o)
I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.

My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

Dave

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
<david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

>I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

d;o)
I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.

My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

Dave

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
<david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

>I think part of
>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>vehicles.

d;o)
I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.

My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

Dave

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:27:06 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
><david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>>I think part of
>>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>>vehicles.
>
>d;o)
>I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
>"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
>5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.
>
>My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

I also learned how to drive with a stick shift, in a ubiquitous VW
Beetle; my parents wouldn't let me drive the Olds Delta 88 automatic.
Now I'm on my third Audi/VW product, a 98.5 A4, preceded by a 95
Passat VRX and an 85 4000S (I loved that old Audi and really should
have kept her, but the breaking door handles were starting to make me
crazy).

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:27:06 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
><david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>>I think part of
>>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>>vehicles.
>
>d;o)
>I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
>"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
>5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.
>
>My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

I also learned how to drive with a stick shift, in a ubiquitous VW
Beetle; my parents wouldn't let me drive the Olds Delta 88 automatic.
Now I'm on my third Audi/VW product, a 98.5 A4, preceded by a 95
Passat VRX and an 85 4000S (I loved that old Audi and really should
have kept her, but the breaking door handles were starting to make me
crazy).

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:27:06 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:09:23 -0400, David Timothy Jones
><david@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>>I think part of
>>it is the proliferation of the automatic transmission. ( Standing by for
>>flaming) many people that should not have drivers licenses drive these
>>vehicles.
>
>d;o)
>I taught both of my daughters (age 43 and 37) how to drive using
>"three on the tree" in an old pick-up. The first cars they owned had
>5 speeds. One ended up teaching her husband how to drive a stick.
>
>My two oldest grandsons drive Audis - 94 S4, and 2000 A6.

I also learned how to drive with a stick shift, in a ubiquitous VW
Beetle; my parents wouldn't let me drive the Olds Delta 88 automatic.
Now I'm on my third Audi/VW product, a 98.5 A4, preceded by a 95
Passat VRX and an 85 4000S (I loved that old Audi and really should
have kept her, but the breaking door handles were starting to make me
crazy).

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.
>
>
> My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
> know how it is.


You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.
>
>
> My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
> know how it is.


You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I believe you're the one who insulted me first. And if you consider it
>>a "game", then you're no better than a troll anyway.
>
>
> My, my. Mike has a temper. That's ok. I was young once myself. I
> know how it is.


You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:22:41 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
>call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
(hence the temper?).

I say again: There are very bad drivers out there hanging in the left
lane on two/three/four lane highways. It is a problem. *Most* states
have a "keep right except to pass" law and post it on their roads.
Now, if NY doesn't, that's probably why many of the NY drivers that I
see in my travels are very poor drivers who think that the left lane
is *their* lane, and to hell with everyone else. I see it on my twice
yearly trips to Ontario to fly fish. I see in on my twice yearly
trips across the state on I84, and look forward to crossing the
Delaware into PA. If you drive without care in the left lane, then
you are a bad driver, period!

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:22:41 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
>call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
(hence the temper?).

I say again: There are very bad drivers out there hanging in the left
lane on two/three/four lane highways. It is a problem. *Most* states
have a "keep right except to pass" law and post it on their roads.
Now, if NY doesn't, that's probably why many of the NY drivers that I
see in my travels are very poor drivers who think that the left lane
is *their* lane, and to hell with everyone else. I see it on my twice
yearly trips to Ontario to fly fish. I see in on my twice yearly
trips across the state on I84, and look forward to crossing the
Delaware into PA. If you drive without care in the left lane, then
you are a bad driver, period!

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:22:41 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
>call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.

Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
(hence the temper?).

I say again: There are very bad drivers out there hanging in the left
lane on two/three/four lane highways. It is a problem. *Most* states
have a "keep right except to pass" law and post it on their roads.
Now, if NY doesn't, that's probably why many of the NY drivers that I
see in my travels are very poor drivers who think that the left lane
is *their* lane, and to hell with everyone else. I see it on my twice
yearly trips to Ontario to fly fish. I see in on my twice yearly
trips across the state on I84, and look forward to crossing the
Delaware into PA. If you drive without care in the left lane, then
you are a bad driver, period!

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:22:41 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
>>call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.
>
>
> Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
> into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
> (hence the temper?).

Um, here?

Me: There's nothing in the NY law that says you can't park your ass in
the left lane of a divided highway and do 55 mph till the cows come home.

You: And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No
common sense, lad?


Oh, I'm sorry: You didn't call me a bad driver, you merely *suspected*
me of being a bad driver, for no reason other than that I stated my
understanding of NY traffic law, while never saying that I *liked* it.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:22:41 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
>>You call me a bad driver with absolutely no evidence to support it, I
>>call you on it, and now I'm "young" with a "temper". Uh, huh.
>
>
> Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
> into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
> (hence the temper?).

Um, here?

Me: There's nothing in the NY law that says you can't park your ass in
the left lane of a divided highway and do 55 mph till the cows come home.

You: And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No
common sense, lad?


Oh, I'm sorry: You didn't call me a bad driver, you merely *suspected*
me of being a bad driver, for no reason other than that I stated my
understanding of NY traffic law, while never saying that I *liked* it.

--
Mike Smith