Mike Smith wrote:
>As you said, things balance out.

Exactly.

 

Mike Smith wrote:
>As you said, things balance out.

Exactly.

 

"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:13k11tgt6ok5n59@news.supernews.com...
> G-man uk wrote:
>> X-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Ronny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well Petrol in the UK is now £1.02 a litre, that means it now costs to
>>>>> fill up my A4 £67
>>>>>
>>>>> That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think
>>>>> it cost around $20 to fill up.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would probably be about double that now ($40). All depends
>>>> on size of tank etc.
>>>>
>>>> However, you might think you're hard done by on fuel, but the cost of
>>>> other basics such as electricity are very much higher than the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Swings and roundabouts really. Grass is not always greener etc etc
>>>
>>> Very much higher?
>>>
>>> Explain....
>>>
>>> Our price for a "small" house is £600 a year for electicity, remember we
>>> dont have stuff like swimming pools and air con, big fridges etc, so
>>> thats over $1200 a year, how much do you pay?
>>
>> Actually, I'm in the UK not the US, but I can tell you though, that a
>> friend of mine in Texas pays around $1000-1200 a *month* for electricity
>> and I don't believe this is unique. He doesn't have a swimming pool but
>> air-con is a must. The house is about the size of a 4 bed detached here.
>
> Texas is rather an extreme case for electricity, since in many places air
> conditioning is required 24/7. Here in New York, with air conditioning
> and electric hot water, I pay about $200 a month on average.
>
>>> We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a
>>> year.
>>
>> Your council tax is really a payment for bin collections, sewage charges
>> etc. Americans have a similar tax too.
>
> Yes, but it's nowhere *near* $3000 a year. *Maybe* as much as $300. And
> there are no "car taxes", in NY there is a registration fee of about $50 a
> year.
>
>> Also, how much do you pay for medical costs? I for one am very grateful
>> for the NHS. If I moved to the US, I wouldn't get insurance because of
>> pre-existing conditions. If I did, then for a family of 4 you're looking
>> at around $400-500+ a MONTH.
>
> So? As you said, things balance out. Yes, that's probably about what
> you'd pay for health insurance. And maybe electricity is more expensive.
> Meanwhile, you'd probably be paying a top income tax rate (i.e. only on
> the highest few thousand dollars of your income) of 28% (15% on the rest),
> 0-8% sales tax (depending on which state) instead of - what, 18% VAT?,
> land and houses are cheaper, cars are cheaper (both in price and taxes),
> food is generally cheaper, just about everything is, really.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI

As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees

So say £250 a month, that's $500

And tax at 22%

 

"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:13k11tgt6ok5n59@news.supernews.com...
> G-man uk wrote:
>> X-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Ronny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well Petrol in the UK is now £1.02 a litre, that means it now costs to
>>>>> fill up my A4 £67
>>>>>
>>>>> That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think
>>>>> it cost around $20 to fill up.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would probably be about double that now ($40). All depends
>>>> on size of tank etc.
>>>>
>>>> However, you might think you're hard done by on fuel, but the cost of
>>>> other basics such as electricity are very much higher than the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Swings and roundabouts really. Grass is not always greener etc etc
>>>
>>> Very much higher?
>>>
>>> Explain....
>>>
>>> Our price for a "small" house is £600 a year for electicity, remember we
>>> dont have stuff like swimming pools and air con, big fridges etc, so
>>> thats over $1200 a year, how much do you pay?
>>
>> Actually, I'm in the UK not the US, but I can tell you though, that a
>> friend of mine in Texas pays around $1000-1200 a *month* for electricity
>> and I don't believe this is unique. He doesn't have a swimming pool but
>> air-con is a must. The house is about the size of a 4 bed detached here.
>
> Texas is rather an extreme case for electricity, since in many places air
> conditioning is required 24/7. Here in New York, with air conditioning
> and electric hot water, I pay about $200 a month on average.
>
>>> We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a
>>> year.
>>
>> Your council tax is really a payment for bin collections, sewage charges
>> etc. Americans have a similar tax too.
>
> Yes, but it's nowhere *near* $3000 a year. *Maybe* as much as $300. And
> there are no "car taxes", in NY there is a registration fee of about $50 a
> year.
>
>> Also, how much do you pay for medical costs? I for one am very grateful
>> for the NHS. If I moved to the US, I wouldn't get insurance because of
>> pre-existing conditions. If I did, then for a family of 4 you're looking
>> at around $400-500+ a MONTH.
>
> So? As you said, things balance out. Yes, that's probably about what
> you'd pay for health insurance. And maybe electricity is more expensive.
> Meanwhile, you'd probably be paying a top income tax rate (i.e. only on
> the highest few thousand dollars of your income) of 28% (15% on the rest),
> 0-8% sales tax (depending on which state) instead of - what, 18% VAT?,
> land and houses are cheaper, cars are cheaper (both in price and taxes),
> food is generally cheaper, just about everything is, really.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI

As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees

So say £250 a month, that's $500

And tax at 22%

 

"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:13k11tgt6ok5n59@news.supernews.com...
> G-man uk wrote:
>> X-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Ronny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well Petrol in the UK is now £1.02 a litre, that means it now costs to
>>>>> fill up my A4 £67
>>>>>
>>>>> That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think
>>>>> it cost around $20 to fill up.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would probably be about double that now ($40). All depends
>>>> on size of tank etc.
>>>>
>>>> However, you might think you're hard done by on fuel, but the cost of
>>>> other basics such as electricity are very much higher than the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Swings and roundabouts really. Grass is not always greener etc etc
>>>
>>> Very much higher?
>>>
>>> Explain....
>>>
>>> Our price for a "small" house is £600 a year for electicity, remember we
>>> dont have stuff like swimming pools and air con, big fridges etc, so
>>> thats over $1200 a year, how much do you pay?
>>
>> Actually, I'm in the UK not the US, but I can tell you though, that a
>> friend of mine in Texas pays around $1000-1200 a *month* for electricity
>> and I don't believe this is unique. He doesn't have a swimming pool but
>> air-con is a must. The house is about the size of a 4 bed detached here.
>
> Texas is rather an extreme case for electricity, since in many places air
> conditioning is required 24/7. Here in New York, with air conditioning
> and electric hot water, I pay about $200 a month on average.
>
>>> We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a
>>> year.
>>
>> Your council tax is really a payment for bin collections, sewage charges
>> etc. Americans have a similar tax too.
>
> Yes, but it's nowhere *near* $3000 a year. *Maybe* as much as $300. And
> there are no "car taxes", in NY there is a registration fee of about $50 a
> year.
>
>> Also, how much do you pay for medical costs? I for one am very grateful
>> for the NHS. If I moved to the US, I wouldn't get insurance because of
>> pre-existing conditions. If I did, then for a family of 4 you're looking
>> at around $400-500+ a MONTH.
>
> So? As you said, things balance out. Yes, that's probably about what
> you'd pay for health insurance. And maybe electricity is more expensive.
> Meanwhile, you'd probably be paying a top income tax rate (i.e. only on
> the highest few thousand dollars of your income) of 28% (15% on the rest),
> 0-8% sales tax (depending on which state) instead of - what, 18% VAT?,
> land and houses are cheaper, cars are cheaper (both in price and taxes),
> food is generally cheaper, just about everything is, really.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI

As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees

So say £250 a month, that's $500

And tax at 22%

 

X-no-archive: yes
Ronny wrote:

> Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI
>
> As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees
> So say £250 a month, that's $500
> And tax at 22%

There's lots of different variables when it comes to paying and saving
tax, thats just one situation. Everyone is different. Income tax
starts at 10% for example.

When you weigh up all the options, for some it works out cheaper in the
US, for some the UK wins out. As much as I love the place, I personally
couldn't move to the USA because I wouldn't get health insurance, so I
feel very happy that everything here is free for me, something I'd end
up paying $100's a month in prescription costs for.

Anyway, the original post was about the A1, a very stylish little motor
that I can't wait to see 'in the flesh'. Of course, it remains to be
seen what will remain of the original concept. Would be a shame to
stick the UK licence plate across that front grill though!

 

X-no-archive: yes
Ronny wrote:

> Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI
>
> As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees
> So say £250 a month, that's $500
> And tax at 22%

There's lots of different variables when it comes to paying and saving
tax, thats just one situation. Everyone is different. Income tax
starts at 10% for example.

When you weigh up all the options, for some it works out cheaper in the
US, for some the UK wins out. As much as I love the place, I personally
couldn't move to the USA because I wouldn't get health insurance, so I
feel very happy that everything here is free for me, something I'd end
up paying $100's a month in prescription costs for.

Anyway, the original post was about the A1, a very stylish little motor
that I can't wait to see 'in the flesh'. Of course, it remains to be
seen what will remain of the original concept. Would be a shame to
stick the UK licence plate across that front grill though!

 

X-no-archive: yes
Ronny wrote:

> Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI
>
> As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees
> So say £250 a month, that's $500
> And tax at 22%

There's lots of different variables when it comes to paying and saving
tax, thats just one situation. Everyone is different. Income tax
starts at 10% for example.

When you weigh up all the options, for some it works out cheaper in the
US, for some the UK wins out. As much as I love the place, I personally
couldn't move to the USA because I wouldn't get health insurance, so I
feel very happy that everything here is free for me, something I'd end
up paying $100's a month in prescription costs for.

Anyway, the original post was about the A1, a very stylish little motor
that I can't wait to see 'in the flesh'. Of course, it remains to be
seen what will remain of the original concept. Would be a shame to
stick the UK licence plate across that front grill though!