>> Also check for vacuum leaks - that's a common source of poor idling on a
>>> 1.8T
>>>
>>> I've just cleaned the TB on a 1.8 (non turbo) in an Audi A4 this
>>> afternoon & found a small vac hose that was split. Idle is sorted & its
>>> cured a "flat spot" that was there at about 4.5 - 5K rpm. I'd say your
>>> chances are better than even of fixing it - at which point you can go
>>> ask for the money back for the MAF
>>>
>>> I.
>>>
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of what hoses to inspect please.
>> Currently have the TB removed, lots of carbon, but no actual chunks,
>> butterfly valve cannot fully close though, should it close to the mating
>> surfaces ?
>> Thanks again
>> Stuart
>> Thanks
>> Stuart
>>
> Apologies for replying to myself, but since it was good news, I thought I
> would share it.
> Just to let everyone know the cleaning the throttle body internals did the
> trick.
> I would like to say a HUGE BIG THANKS to everyone especially Alec for
> pointing me in the right direction.

Great stuff - now go and tell the skanky garage & either ask for your money
back on the MAF or at least get the old sensor back from them. Given that
you are also 700 quid better off than you might have been I guess the beers
are on you (!)

I.

 

>> Also check for vacuum leaks - that's a common source of poor idling on a
>>> 1.8T
>>>
>>> I've just cleaned the TB on a 1.8 (non turbo) in an Audi A4 this
>>> afternoon & found a small vac hose that was split. Idle is sorted & its
>>> cured a "flat spot" that was there at about 4.5 - 5K rpm. I'd say your
>>> chances are better than even of fixing it - at which point you can go
>>> ask for the money back for the MAF
>>>
>>> I.
>>>
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of what hoses to inspect please.
>> Currently have the TB removed, lots of carbon, but no actual chunks,
>> butterfly valve cannot fully close though, should it close to the mating
>> surfaces ?
>> Thanks again
>> Stuart
>> Thanks
>> Stuart
>>
> Apologies for replying to myself, but since it was good news, I thought I
> would share it.
> Just to let everyone know the cleaning the throttle body internals did the
> trick.
> I would like to say a HUGE BIG THANKS to everyone especially Alec for
> pointing me in the right direction.

Great stuff - now go and tell the skanky garage & either ask for your money
back on the MAF or at least get the old sensor back from them. Given that
you are also 700 quid better off than you might have been I guess the beers
are on you (!)

I.

 

"Iain Miller" <donot@spam.me> wrote in message
news:B0nie.13721$he1.9478@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Also check for vacuum leaks - that's a common source of poor idling on a
>>>> 1.8T
>>>>
>>>> I've just cleaned the TB on a 1.8 (non turbo) in an Audi A4 this
>>>> afternoon & found a small vac hose that was split. Idle is sorted & its
>>>> cured a "flat spot" that was there at about 4.5 - 5K rpm. I'd say your
>>>> chances are better than even of fixing it - at which point you can go
>>>> ask for the money back for the MAF
>>>>
>>>> I.
>>>>
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of what hoses to inspect please.
>>> Currently have the TB removed, lots of carbon, but no actual chunks,
>>> butterfly valve cannot fully close though, should it close to the mating
>>> surfaces ?
>>> Thanks again
>>> Stuart
>>> Thanks
>>> Stuart
>>>
>> Apologies for replying to myself, but since it was good news, I thought I
>> would share it.
>> Just to let everyone know the cleaning the throttle body internals did
>> the trick.
>> I would like to say a HUGE BIG THANKS to everyone especially Alec for
>> pointing me in the right direction.
>
> Great stuff - now go and tell the skanky garage & either ask for your
> money back on the MAF or at least get the old sensor back from them. Given
> that you are also 700 quid better off than you might have been I guess the
> beers are on you (!)
>
> I.
>
>
>
The beers are definitely on me.
Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
£3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.

That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
code.

Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle though.

I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then replace
it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime, and they
did used to provide an excellent service.

Interestingly the RAC warranty I had would not cover the TB, I think they
(the RAC) were vindicated in this case. That's another story though, the
warranty covered only certain functions of the TB not all of them. It is a
complete assembly, so the whole thing would have to be replaced and they
would not cover that.

Anyway many thanks.
Stuart

 

"Iain Miller" <donot@spam.me> wrote in message
news:B0nie.13721$he1.9478@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Also check for vacuum leaks - that's a common source of poor idling on a
>>>> 1.8T
>>>>
>>>> I've just cleaned the TB on a 1.8 (non turbo) in an Audi A4 this
>>>> afternoon & found a small vac hose that was split. Idle is sorted & its
>>>> cured a "flat spot" that was there at about 4.5 - 5K rpm. I'd say your
>>>> chances are better than even of fixing it - at which point you can go
>>>> ask for the money back for the MAF
>>>>
>>>> I.
>>>>
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of what hoses to inspect please.
>>> Currently have the TB removed, lots of carbon, but no actual chunks,
>>> butterfly valve cannot fully close though, should it close to the mating
>>> surfaces ?
>>> Thanks again
>>> Stuart
>>> Thanks
>>> Stuart
>>>
>> Apologies for replying to myself, but since it was good news, I thought I
>> would share it.
>> Just to let everyone know the cleaning the throttle body internals did
>> the trick.
>> I would like to say a HUGE BIG THANKS to everyone especially Alec for
>> pointing me in the right direction.
>
> Great stuff - now go and tell the skanky garage & either ask for your
> money back on the MAF or at least get the old sensor back from them. Given
> that you are also 700 quid better off than you might have been I guess the
> beers are on you (!)
>
> I.
>
>
>
The beers are definitely on me.
Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
£3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.

That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
code.

Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle though.

I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then replace
it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime, and they
did used to provide an excellent service.

Interestingly the RAC warranty I had would not cover the TB, I think they
(the RAC) were vindicated in this case. That's another story though, the
warranty covered only certain functions of the TB not all of them. It is a
complete assembly, so the whole thing would have to be replaced and they
would not cover that.

Anyway many thanks.
Stuart

 

"Iain Miller" <donot@spam.me> wrote in message
news:B0nie.13721$he1.9478@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Also check for vacuum leaks - that's a common source of poor idling on a
>>>> 1.8T
>>>>
>>>> I've just cleaned the TB on a 1.8 (non turbo) in an Audi A4 this
>>>> afternoon & found a small vac hose that was split. Idle is sorted & its
>>>> cured a "flat spot" that was there at about 4.5 - 5K rpm. I'd say your
>>>> chances are better than even of fixing it - at which point you can go
>>>> ask for the money back for the MAF
>>>>
>>>> I.
>>>>
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of what hoses to inspect please.
>>> Currently have the TB removed, lots of carbon, but no actual chunks,
>>> butterfly valve cannot fully close though, should it close to the mating
>>> surfaces ?
>>> Thanks again
>>> Stuart
>>> Thanks
>>> Stuart
>>>
>> Apologies for replying to myself, but since it was good news, I thought I
>> would share it.
>> Just to let everyone know the cleaning the throttle body internals did
>> the trick.
>> I would like to say a HUGE BIG THANKS to everyone especially Alec for
>> pointing me in the right direction.
>
> Great stuff - now go and tell the skanky garage & either ask for your
> money back on the MAF or at least get the old sensor back from them. Given
> that you are also 700 quid better off than you might have been I guess the
> beers are on you (!)
>
> I.
>
>
>
The beers are definitely on me.
Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
£3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.

That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
code.

Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle though.

I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then replace
it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime, and they
did used to provide an excellent service.

Interestingly the RAC warranty I had would not cover the TB, I think they
(the RAC) were vindicated in this case. That's another story though, the
warranty covered only certain functions of the TB not all of them. It is a
complete assembly, so the whole thing would have to be replaced and they
would not cover that.

Anyway many thanks.
Stuart

 

> The beers are definitely on me.
> Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
> far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
> £3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.
>
> That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
> TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
> code.
>
> Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle
> though.

Hmmm - maybe the MAF just needed cleaning as well. It doesn't always work
but its worth trying before replacing the thing

> I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
> trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then
> replace it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime,
> and they did used to provide an excellent service.

Yeah well, tis the absence of Mechanics & the proliferation of "fitters".

I can see your dilemma - but I'd still make a phone call or go & see them to
have a chat about it. You may need them at some point & to a certain extent
"better the devil you know". You'll also know to come & ask here (or
similar) before authorising any other expensive works in future!

Anyway, glad its fixed - suggest you invest some of the savings in a Bentley
manual & maybe a few more tools. When you can do an oil change in under hour
for under £35 it seems a bit pointless to pay a garage 3 times that amount.

I..

 

> The beers are definitely on me.
> Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
> far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
> £3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.
>
> That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
> TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
> code.
>
> Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle
> though.

Hmmm - maybe the MAF just needed cleaning as well. It doesn't always work
but its worth trying before replacing the thing

> I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
> trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then
> replace it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime,
> and they did used to provide an excellent service.

Yeah well, tis the absence of Mechanics & the proliferation of "fitters".

I can see your dilemma - but I'd still make a phone call or go & see them to
have a chat about it. You may need them at some point & to a certain extent
"better the devil you know". You'll also know to come & ask here (or
similar) before authorising any other expensive works in future!

Anyway, glad its fixed - suggest you invest some of the savings in a Bentley
manual & maybe a few more tools. When you can do an oil change in under hour
for under £35 it seems a bit pointless to pay a garage 3 times that amount.

I..

 

> The beers are definitely on me.
> Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300 so
> far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour and
> £3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.
>
> That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
> TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
> code.
>
> Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle
> though.

Hmmm - maybe the MAF just needed cleaning as well. It doesn't always work
but its worth trying before replacing the thing

> I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time I
> trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then
> replace it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for sometime,
> and they did used to provide an excellent service.

Yeah well, tis the absence of Mechanics & the proliferation of "fitters".

I can see your dilemma - but I'd still make a phone call or go & see them to
have a chat about it. You may need them at some point & to a certain extent
"better the devil you know". You'll also know to come & ask here (or
similar) before authorising any other expensive works in future!

Anyway, glad its fixed - suggest you invest some of the savings in a Bentley
manual & maybe a few more tools. When you can do an oil change in under hour
for under £35 it seems a bit pointless to pay a garage 3 times that amount.

I..

 

"Iain Miller" <donot@spam.me> wrote in message
news:mmoie.13783$he1.11229@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> The beers are definitely on me.
>> Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300
>> so far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour
>> and £3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.
>>
>> That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
>> TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
>> code.
>>
>> Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle
>> though.
>
> Hmmm - maybe the MAF just needed cleaning as well. It doesn't always work
> but its worth trying before replacing the thing
>
>> I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time
>> I trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then
>> replace it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for
>> sometime, and they did used to provide an excellent service.
>
> Yeah well, tis the absence of Mechanics & the proliferation of "fitters".
>
> I can see your dilemma - but I'd still make a phone call or go & see them
> to have a chat about it. You may need them at some point & to a certain
> extent "better the devil you know". You'll also know to come & ask here
> (or similar) before authorising any other expensive works in future!

I thought I did, but I am mistaken, can't find the post!

>
> Anyway, glad its fixed - suggest you invest some of the savings in a
> Bentley manual & maybe a few more tools. When you can do an oil change in
> under hour for under £35 it seems a bit pointless to pay a garage 3 times
> that amount.
>
Due to fiscal circumstances beyond my control it is now time to sell the
Audi. If I get another, I will definitely invest in a Bentley.

The prices calculated last week were :-
Glasses Top Book is £4970
Maximum for Parkers adjusted for mileage and auto box is £6800
And What Car comes in at £6461

Any ideas what a reasonable price would be to advertise at ?
1998 A6 1.8T Green Leather Interior, Auto, 6-CD Ch, Aircon, FSH, 46K miles
(guaranteed, only one previous owner - my boss),
No expense spaired for maintenance!
Stuart

 

"Iain Miller" <donot@spam.me> wrote in message
news:mmoie.13783$he1.11229@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> The beers are definitely on me.
>> Kinda wondering what to do with the garage, this fault has cost me £300
>> so far, would have cost another £700. All it needed was an hours labour
>> and £3.42 for a can of carb cleaner.
>>
>> That included two diagnostics-one that ID'd the MAF and one that ID'd the
>> TB, I would not have known to look to the throttle body without the fault
>> code.
>>
>> Maybe the MAF was faulty, the performance did improve, not the idle
>> though.
>
> Hmmm - maybe the MAF just needed cleaning as well. It doesn't always work
> but its worth trying before replacing the thing
>
>> I feel a bit let down by the garage, I am not a mechanic and at one time
>> I trusted these guys as experts who would clean something rather then
>> replace it. Not that naive, I have been dealing with garages for
>> sometime, and they did used to provide an excellent service.
>
> Yeah well, tis the absence of Mechanics & the proliferation of "fitters".
>
> I can see your dilemma - but I'd still make a phone call or go & see them
> to have a chat about it. You may need them at some point & to a certain
> extent "better the devil you know". You'll also know to come & ask here
> (or similar) before authorising any other expensive works in future!

I thought I did, but I am mistaken, can't find the post!

>
> Anyway, glad its fixed - suggest you invest some of the savings in a
> Bentley manual & maybe a few more tools. When you can do an oil change in
> under hour for under £35 it seems a bit pointless to pay a garage 3 times
> that amount.
>
Due to fiscal circumstances beyond my control it is now time to sell the
Audi. If I get another, I will definitely invest in a Bentley.

The prices calculated last week were :-
Glasses Top Book is £4970
Maximum for Parkers adjusted for mileage and auto box is £6800
And What Car comes in at £6461

Any ideas what a reasonable price would be to advertise at ?
1998 A6 1.8T Green Leather Interior, Auto, 6-CD Ch, Aircon, FSH, 46K miles
(guaranteed, only one previous owner - my boss),
No expense spaired for maintenance!
Stuart