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Ronny 10-17-2005 09:46 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 

"Glenn Richards" <glenn@squirrelsolutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:E8mdnRiaTtwSX8_eRVnygQ@eclipse.net.uk...
> daytripper wrote:
>
>>> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the
>>> 1.8t (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the
>>> two). [snip]
>>> Thanks for the advise, I'm hoping to make a decision in a week or
>>> so.

>> If aftermarket performance add-ons was the only metric, you'd do
>> better with the 1.8t or the S4. There's tons of goodies for either of
>> those, while - short of a full-on supercharger - nobody has done much
>> useful to boost the pedestrian na 2.8. And the na 3.0 - which
>> actually seems to be pretty darned strong as it is - will also be
>> limited as far as add-ons that'll increase power, but on the up-side
>> you may find you don't need any more power...

>
> I have the 1.9TDI Quattro (2003 model), red "I", 130bhp. Produces about
> 230lb/ft of torque, and the four wheel drive helps get all that torque
> down onto the tarmac.
>
> It beat an Escort RS2000 off the lights, and gave a Cossie a good run for
> its money down the motorway.


You won't get near a cosworth in a 1.9DTI, I just about kept up with one in
a 225bhp TT, and if it was an Escort Cosworth you gotta be kidding me lol

0-60 time of 5.9 secs compared to a 10.0 sec 0-60 time in the 130ps TDI

Top speed Escort cosworth 155mph limited, a 1.9TDI top speed is 120, 100mph
and it runs out of puff

Unless it was a 1.6 escort badged as cossie :)

Even a 2.5TDI won't keep up with a TT or an S3 (same car)



Ronny 10-17-2005 09:46 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 

"Glenn Richards" <glenn@squirrelsolutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:E8mdnRiaTtwSX8_eRVnygQ@eclipse.net.uk...
> daytripper wrote:
>
>>> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the
>>> 1.8t (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the
>>> two). [snip]
>>> Thanks for the advise, I'm hoping to make a decision in a week or
>>> so.

>> If aftermarket performance add-ons was the only metric, you'd do
>> better with the 1.8t or the S4. There's tons of goodies for either of
>> those, while - short of a full-on supercharger - nobody has done much
>> useful to boost the pedestrian na 2.8. And the na 3.0 - which
>> actually seems to be pretty darned strong as it is - will also be
>> limited as far as add-ons that'll increase power, but on the up-side
>> you may find you don't need any more power...

>
> I have the 1.9TDI Quattro (2003 model), red "I", 130bhp. Produces about
> 230lb/ft of torque, and the four wheel drive helps get all that torque
> down onto the tarmac.
>
> It beat an Escort RS2000 off the lights, and gave a Cossie a good run for
> its money down the motorway.


You won't get near a cosworth in a 1.9DTI, I just about kept up with one in
a 225bhp TT, and if it was an Escort Cosworth you gotta be kidding me lol

0-60 time of 5.9 secs compared to a 10.0 sec 0-60 time in the 130ps TDI

Top speed Escort cosworth 155mph limited, a 1.9TDI top speed is 120, 100mph
and it runs out of puff

Unless it was a 1.6 escort badged as cossie :)

Even a 2.5TDI won't keep up with a TT or an S3 (same car)



Ronny 10-17-2005 09:46 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 

"Glenn Richards" <glenn@squirrelsolutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:E8mdnRiaTtwSX8_eRVnygQ@eclipse.net.uk...
> daytripper wrote:
>
>>> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the
>>> 1.8t (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the
>>> two). [snip]
>>> Thanks for the advise, I'm hoping to make a decision in a week or
>>> so.

>> If aftermarket performance add-ons was the only metric, you'd do
>> better with the 1.8t or the S4. There's tons of goodies for either of
>> those, while - short of a full-on supercharger - nobody has done much
>> useful to boost the pedestrian na 2.8. And the na 3.0 - which
>> actually seems to be pretty darned strong as it is - will also be
>> limited as far as add-ons that'll increase power, but on the up-side
>> you may find you don't need any more power...

>
> I have the 1.9TDI Quattro (2003 model), red "I", 130bhp. Produces about
> 230lb/ft of torque, and the four wheel drive helps get all that torque
> down onto the tarmac.
>
> It beat an Escort RS2000 off the lights, and gave a Cossie a good run for
> its money down the motorway.


You won't get near a cosworth in a 1.9DTI, I just about kept up with one in
a 225bhp TT, and if it was an Escort Cosworth you gotta be kidding me lol

0-60 time of 5.9 secs compared to a 10.0 sec 0-60 time in the 130ps TDI

Top speed Escort cosworth 155mph limited, a 1.9TDI top speed is 120, 100mph
and it runs out of puff

Unless it was a 1.6 escort badged as cossie :)

Even a 2.5TDI won't keep up with a TT or an S3 (same car)



Carl Howarth 10-17-2005 10:24 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
I have the 00 S4, which I bought because my wife has the 98 passat w/2.8. I
loved the stability and handling of the car, and the engine is smooth and
strong from midrange up. I just needed a few more ponies since it was to be
my 'fun' car.

Like the other posters point out, you can chip the 1.8t easily for more
'go', but the 2.8 requires more coin to bump it's HP.

I've driven both engines, and I'd take the 2.8.

C

"tealetm" <tealetm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129492297.044228.293460@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the 1.8t
> (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the two). I
> did like the feel of the 1.8t, pretty smooth throughout the gears with
> the execption of starting off in first. I have yet to drive a 2.8 or
> 3.0. As far as powertrain performance, what is your comparison? Gas
> mileage is a little better on the 1.8t, but what else is there? What
> about aftermarket performance add ons? Thanks for the advise, I'm
> hoping to make a decision in a week or so.
>




Carl Howarth 10-17-2005 10:24 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
I have the 00 S4, which I bought because my wife has the 98 passat w/2.8. I
loved the stability and handling of the car, and the engine is smooth and
strong from midrange up. I just needed a few more ponies since it was to be
my 'fun' car.

Like the other posters point out, you can chip the 1.8t easily for more
'go', but the 2.8 requires more coin to bump it's HP.

I've driven both engines, and I'd take the 2.8.

C

"tealetm" <tealetm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129492297.044228.293460@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the 1.8t
> (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the two). I
> did like the feel of the 1.8t, pretty smooth throughout the gears with
> the execption of starting off in first. I have yet to drive a 2.8 or
> 3.0. As far as powertrain performance, what is your comparison? Gas
> mileage is a little better on the 1.8t, but what else is there? What
> about aftermarket performance add ons? Thanks for the advise, I'm
> hoping to make a decision in a week or so.
>




Carl Howarth 10-17-2005 10:24 AM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
I have the 00 S4, which I bought because my wife has the 98 passat w/2.8. I
loved the stability and handling of the car, and the engine is smooth and
strong from midrange up. I just needed a few more ponies since it was to be
my 'fun' car.

Like the other posters point out, you can chip the 1.8t easily for more
'go', but the 2.8 requires more coin to bump it's HP.

I've driven both engines, and I'd take the 2.8.

C

"tealetm" <tealetm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129492297.044228.293460@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm in the market for a used Audi (2001-03) A4. I've driven the 1.8t
> (2003) as well as a 2001 S4 (hah, no comparison between the two). I
> did like the feel of the 1.8t, pretty smooth throughout the gears with
> the execption of starting off in first. I have yet to drive a 2.8 or
> 3.0. As far as powertrain performance, what is your comparison? Gas
> mileage is a little better on the 1.8t, but what else is there? What
> about aftermarket performance add ons? Thanks for the advise, I'm
> hoping to make a decision in a week or so.
>




Mike Smith 10-29-2005 04:52 PM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
daytripper wrote:
>
> Nice - but not on his short list...and if he's in the USA, you can't even buy
> a diesel passenger auto in some states...


Not a new one, but I think you can still buy them used.

--
Mike Smith

Mike Smith 10-29-2005 04:52 PM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
daytripper wrote:
>
> Nice - but not on his short list...and if he's in the USA, you can't even buy
> a diesel passenger auto in some states...


Not a new one, but I think you can still buy them used.

--
Mike Smith

Mike Smith 10-29-2005 04:52 PM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
daytripper wrote:
>
> Nice - but not on his short list...and if he's in the USA, you can't even buy
> a diesel passenger auto in some states...


Not a new one, but I think you can still buy them used.

--
Mike Smith

Mike Smith 10-29-2005 04:52 PM

Re: 2002 A4 1.8t vs. 3.0 or 2001 2.8
 
daytripper wrote:
>
> Nice - but not on his short list...and if he's in the USA, you can't even buy
> a diesel passenger auto in some states...


Not a new one, but I think you can still buy them used.

--
Mike Smith


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