"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Art M wrote:
>> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>> news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>
>>>
>>>b wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>
>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>
>> snip
>>
>> So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>> tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>
>> --Art
> The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
> origional one.
> Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
> replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.


Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
roller on the damper?

Thanks

--Art

 

"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Art M wrote:
>> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>> news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>
>>>
>>>b wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>
>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>
>> snip
>>
>> So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>> tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>
>> --Art
> The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
> origional one.
> Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
> replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.


Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
roller on the damper?

Thanks

--Art

 

"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:12pthrkbthmvo42@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Art M wrote:
>> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>> news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>
>>>
>>>b wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>
>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>
>> snip
>>
>> So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>> tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>
>> --Art
> The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
> origional one.
> Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
> replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.


Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
roller on the damper?

Thanks

--Art

 

Art M wrote:
> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
> news:12pthrkbthmvo42@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>
>>Art M wrote:
>>
>>>"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>>>news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>b wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>>
>>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>>>tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>>
>>>--Art
>>
>>The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
>>origional one.
>>Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
>>replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.
>
>
>
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
> roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
> roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
>
>
The one with the damper is referred to as the tensioner. (The one closer to the
cam pulley)

Both should be replaced. The tensioner has the worst reputation for failure but
failure of either will ruin your whole day.

I don't think that you can replace the roller itself. The tensioner is replaced
as an assembly. Besides, the failure is mostly due to the damper itself.

 

Art M wrote:
> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
> news:12pthrkbthmvo42@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>
>>Art M wrote:
>>
>>>"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>>>news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>b wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>>
>>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>>>tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>>
>>>--Art
>>
>>The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
>>origional one.
>>Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
>>replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.
>
>
>
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
> roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
> roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
>
>
The one with the damper is referred to as the tensioner. (The one closer to the
cam pulley)

Both should be replaced. The tensioner has the worst reputation for failure but
failure of either will ruin your whole day.

I don't think that you can replace the roller itself. The tensioner is replaced
as an assembly. Besides, the failure is mostly due to the damper itself.

 

Art M wrote:
> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
> news:12pthrkbthmvo42@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>
>>Art M wrote:
>>
>>>"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>>>news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>b wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>>
>>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>>>tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>>
>>>--Art
>>
>>The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
>>origional one.
>>Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
>>replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.
>
>
>
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
> roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
> roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
>
>
The one with the damper is referred to as the tensioner. (The one closer to the
cam pulley)

Both should be replaced. The tensioner has the worst reputation for failure but
failure of either will ruin your whole day.

I don't think that you can replace the roller itself. The tensioner is replaced
as an assembly. Besides, the failure is mostly due to the damper itself.

 

Art M wrote:
> "TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
> news:12pthrkbthmvo42@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>
>>Art M wrote:
>>
>>>"TonyJ" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
>>>news:12pocnaigmfkq83@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, you ran into a monkey that didn't have any Audi experience as was
>>>>quite adept at swindling unsuspecting customers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>b wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just got my timing belt replaced ($700 at independent)
>>>>
>>>>this would have been a fair price if the water pump, tensioner and Tstat
>>>>had also been replaced. It was a waste of $700 if only the T belts was
>>>>replaced as the failure mode is more commonly the tensioner or water
>>>>pump. Seriously, I
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>So have any changes been made to the design of the water pump and
>>>tensioner so that we can go longer on the TB change the next time?
>>>
>>>--Art
>>
>>The tensionser has been redesigned and is more dependable than the
>>origional one.
>>Most of the water pumps from the factory have plastic impellers. Always
>>replace with a pump that has a metal impeller.
>
>
>
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the idler
> roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the idle
> roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
>
>
The one with the damper is referred to as the tensioner. (The one closer to the
cam pulley)

Both should be replaced. The tensioner has the worst reputation for failure but
failure of either will ruin your whole day.

I don't think that you can replace the roller itself. The tensioner is replaced
as an assembly. Besides, the failure is mostly due to the damper itself.

 

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:6SXnh.32637$pm7.27671@newsfe13.phx...
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the
> idler roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the
> idle roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
Art, this is one service you do NOT scrimp on.; do both. Some failures are
annoying and will leave you stranded until fixed; a failure here probably
means a new car for you (this is how you should look at it).

 

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:6SXnh.32637$pm7.27671@newsfe13.phx...
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the
> idler roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the
> idle roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
Art, this is one service you do NOT scrimp on.; do both. Some failures are
annoying and will leave you stranded until fixed; a failure here probably
means a new car for you (this is how you should look at it).

 

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:6SXnh.32637$pm7.27671@newsfe13.phx...
> Is the tensioner the tensioned roller or the tensioned damper with the
> idler roller? Should both be replaced? Is it all right to just replace the
> idle roller on the damper?
>
> Thanks
>
> --Art
Art, this is one service you do NOT scrimp on.; do both. Some failures are
annoying and will leave you stranded until fixed; a failure here probably
means a new car for you (this is how you should look at it).