1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
12-22-2004 | 12:10 AM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very much
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 12:10 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very much
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 12:10 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very much
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used BarsAll or
Stop-Leak.
My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that caused
his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak product
that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube. Stopped
the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the needle
was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
Tony
Archangel wrote:
> I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil temp is
> where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the whole
> thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten a
> second opinion on it yet, though.
> "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...>
>> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been there.
>>
>>
>> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
>
> white
>
>>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
>>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
>
> settle.
>
>>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
>>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
>>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
>>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
>>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
>>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white line
>
> I
>
>>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
>>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
>>
>> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
>
> thin
>
>>white line at about 1/4 again.
>>
>> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C) to
>>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
>>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
>>temp.
>>
>> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
>>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
>>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
>
> still,
>
>>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
>>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
12-22-2004 | 12:32 AM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
The heater core.
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-22-2004 | 12:32 AM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
The heater core.
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-22-2004 | 12:32 AM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
The heater core.
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:lbGdnTlc7MEnZlXcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> What did they say needed to be replaced? Radiator? Heater core?
>
> Gene
>
>
> "Archangel" <archangel6675@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%_5yd.7466$fe5.6612@trndny06...
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp
> is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
> whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> > >
> > > Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> > white
> > > line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> > > just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> > settle.
> > > The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> > > or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time.
Somewhat
> > > farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> > > as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if
the
> > > outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> > > sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
> line
> > I
> > > mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> > > temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> > >
> > > If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> > thin
> > > white line at about 1/4 again.
> > >
> > > Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
> to
> > > the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> > > an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the
coolant
> > > temp.
> > >
> > > All indications are that the engine is not getting to full
operating
> > > temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it
really
> > > failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> > still,
> > > very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the
gauge.
> > > There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value
is.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-22-2004 | 10:07 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Arch,
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
12-22-2004 | 10:07 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Arch,
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
12-22-2004 | 10:07 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
Arch,
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
I agree with Tony, if the system was clogged you'd expect a less efficient
heat exchange and an overheating engine.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
12-22-2004 | 10:57 AM
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Re: 1995 Audi 90 2.8l engine temperature low
I wondered about the shops diagnosis also that's why I'm getting a second
opinion. The second shop did a flush of the system when they did the timing
belt/water pump and now we have some heat although not as hot as it should
be unless we're moving. As far as the stop leak not causing the problem...
well it was not just for a small leak, it turned out that the head gasket
was cracked and that's how they tried to fix it. Maybe they used allot of
the stuff?
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > newsqednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...
> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
opinion. The second shop did a flush of the system when they did the timing
belt/water pump and now we have some heat although not as hot as it should
be unless we're moving. As far as the stop leak not causing the problem...
well it was not just for a small leak, it turned out that the head gasket
was cracked and that's how they tried to fix it. Maybe they used allot of
the stuff?
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41c901ca$0$12739$a1866201@visi.com...
> Sounds like your shop is looking to pick up some more money. I doubt very
much
> that anything is 'clogged' up in your system just because the PO used
BarsAll or
> Stop-Leak.
>
> My son has a '98 A4 2.8 Tip. His heater core started a small leak that
caused
> his windshield to fog badly. I can't remember the name by the stop leak
product
> that we used but it looked like silver flakes in a small plastic tube.
Stopped
> the leak for the last two years with no other problems.
>
> His car gets to temperature at the middle line and stays there like the
needle
> was nailed in place in all ambient conditions.
>
> Tony
>
> Archangel wrote:
>
> > I am having almost the same problem with my 97 A6. I have replaced the
> > thermostat 3 times. The coolant temp is the same as yours but my oil
temp is
> > where it is supposed to be. I was told by one garage that the previous
> > owner had used an additive to seal up a leak in the system and now the
whole
> > thing is clogged and needs to be replaced(about $700). I haven't gotten
a
> > second opinion on it yet, though.
> > "Gene Buckwalter" <spam_pit@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news
qednTOwjYSTS1XcRVn-pg@adelphia.com...> >
> >> Ok, before you all say that I need a new thermostat, I've been
there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The engine temperature guage seems to regulate to the first, thin
> >
> > white
> >
> >>line at about 1/4 on the guage. There is a thick white line
> >>just below half way up the guage where I would expect the needle to
> >
> > settle.
> >
> >>The needle only gets there on warm days in the summer
> >>or if I let the car idle stopped for some long period of time. Somewhat
> >>farther up the guage(just above half guage) the fans turn on,
> >>as I would expect also. The heater blows very slightly warm air if the
> >>outside temp is below, say, 45 degrees.... unless I let the car
> >>sit idling long enough to get the gauge up to or past the thick white
line
> >
> > I
> >
> >>mentioned before. Then the heat seems to work fine. If the outside
> >>temp is below 40 or so, the "Heat" makes my feed cold!
> >>
> >> If I'm moving, even at slow speeds, the gauge settles back the the
> >
> > thin
> >
> >>white line at about 1/4 again.
> >>
> >> Also, the oil temp only just comes off the cold mark (60degrees C)
to
> >>the first white mark at about 1/6 the guage. The engine has
> >>an oil cooler so I wouldn't expect the oil to get much above the coolant
> >>temp.
> >>
> >> All indications are that the engine is not getting to full operating
> >>temperature. I've replaced the thermostat twice, once because it really
> >>failed. I've installed the 97 degree C thermostat, not the 87. And
> >
> > still,
> >
> >>very low heater output, and the needle stays at about 1/4 on the gauge.
> >>There is no indication on the gauge as to what the temperature value is.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
