'00 S4 w/Pirelli PZero Nero M+S - Question
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Re: '00 S4 w/Pirelli PZero Nero M+S - Question
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Carl Howarth"
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
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Re: '00 S4 w/Pirelli PZero Nero M+S - Question
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Carl Howarth"
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
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Re: '00 S4 w/Pirelli PZero Nero M+S - Question
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Carl Howarth"
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
<howarthc@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just fitted my S4 with PZero Nero M+S tires last week. I researched the
>tires, and Tirerack.com suggested these as the best performing all weather
>tires. Based on reviews in all categories, theses tires SHOULD be better
>than OEMs for handling, dry traction, noise, tire wear, etc. - in ALL
>categories. I'm having some serious doubts....
Where do you live? It's almost May and you put just so-so snow tires
on a performance car? Huh? If you needed to re-tire, why go to a
snow tire for summer use. Even an all season tire wouldn't be my
choice with a hot car like you have in the S4. If you want a snow
tire, go with Blizzacks or Nokias.
>
>I have about 600 miles on them, and I've found some interesting dynamics
>with them in hard turns. Basically, when I set up in a turn hard, or try to
>accelerate out, I am feeling some 'fighting' between the four corners of the
>car. I can't explain if it is the traction/anti skid control kicking in, or
>if the tires are flat out letting go. My question is this:
>
>Are these tires truly performing better than the OEMs, and therefore I am
>going faster and hence the need for the dynamic controls to activate?
>
>-or-
>
>Are these performing poorly and the 'fighting' I feel is each tire letting
>go or the dynamic controls working to maintain traction?
>
>It's not a confidence inspiring feeling, and I'm thinking of ditching these
>tires. The OEMs had a much better feel in hard turns, but they would
>totally lose control if there were 2 snowflakes on the road. Any thoughts?
Thouoghts? Yeah, I think you screwed up. Solution: Buy four new
wheels, not necessarily alloys, and put the snows on them. Use the
factory wheels for a good set of *summer* tires. You're trying to use
insulated galoshes on your feet in the summer time, when you should be
wearing a good pair of sneaks. Think about it.
Dave (whose RS6 has winter AND summer shoes)
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